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Mainieri and late season surges
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:35 pm
What is it about CPM and how his teams seem to gel at the end of a season?
This year was ROUGH, but the team was young, so it's not a big surprise (for those that realize we have a great legacy and going to Omaha every year is not a birthright).
I'm not always sold on CPM, but he always keeps it interesting. What's the magic there?
This year was ROUGH, but the team was young, so it's not a big surprise (for those that realize we have a great legacy and going to Omaha every year is not a birthright).
I'm not always sold on CPM, but he always keeps it interesting. What's the magic there?
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:36 pm to John Cocktosten
Takes time for the roids to kick in
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:37 pm to John Cocktosten
The man is not my favorite. Frankly I don’t believe he would still be the coach if he followed Skip instead of Smoke.
With that said the mans teams don’t quit! That’s a fact and they always get better.
With that said the mans teams don’t quit! That’s a fact and they always get better.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:42 pm to LSU4Life1965
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The man is not my favorite. Frankly I don’t believe he would still be the coach if he followed Skip instead of Smoke. With that said the mans teams don’t quit! That’s a fact and they always get better.
Exactly. He's not Skip, but who is? I've intentionally erased the Smoke years from memory.
Is it good enough in this changing world of college athletics that we usually keep it interesting? Who else has a legacy like LSU. Think of the powerhouse programs? Who has the history that LSU does?
Like him or not, CPM seems to keep us in the mix.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:44 pm to LSU4Life1965
quote:lol wut
The man is not my favorite. Frankly I don’t believe he would still be the coach if he followed Skip instead of Smoke.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:44 pm to LSU4Life1965
We are LUCKY to have Paul Manieri!!!
He is ethical, professional and competent!!!!!
Skip hired him because he understand Manieri's ability.
Nobody could have had the luck and "boom bats" under Skip, the NCAA curtailed the bats and realllllllllllllllllly regulates the supplements.
Now........fire away if you wish, but Skip's teams were doing what ALL OTHER TEAMS WERE DOING!! Then the NCAA stepped in and Skip was an uncommon master of his troops, they believed in him and Skip knew how to manage the teaching and lesson plans........
Fire away beotches!!
He is ethical, professional and competent!!!!!
Skip hired him because he understand Manieri's ability.
Nobody could have had the luck and "boom bats" under Skip, the NCAA curtailed the bats and realllllllllllllllllly regulates the supplements.
Now........fire away if you wish, but Skip's teams were doing what ALL OTHER TEAMS WERE DOING!! Then the NCAA stepped in and Skip was an uncommon master of his troops, they believed in him and Skip knew how to manage the teaching and lesson plans........
Fire away beotches!!
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:46 pm to John Cocktosten
quote:
I'm not always sold on CPM
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:47 pm to LSU4Life1965
LSU4Life1965 = irrational fan.
How may straight National Seeds have we had until this year?
How may straight National Seeds have we had until this year?
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:49 pm to John Cocktosten
It's not that hard to figure out. Mainieri uses the season to figure out his team and improve as the year goes on. Much to the dismay of TR, he really care less about the mid-week games than the tinkering they offer as a way to try new things, new players to improve.
Usually, this process is quicker than this year, but whatever. We usually have more experience too. This team now is better than at any point this year. It's still now perfect, but who really thought it would be?
I'm much more eager for next season with the growing pains endured this year.
But, that said, I fully expect the mid-week tinkering to continue as it always has, always will.
Usually, this process is quicker than this year, but whatever. We usually have more experience too. This team now is better than at any point this year. It's still now perfect, but who really thought it would be?
I'm much more eager for next season with the growing pains endured this year.
But, that said, I fully expect the mid-week tinkering to continue as it always has, always will.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:51 pm to John Cocktosten
IIRC, Skip’s teams always surged late in the season too. I think it’s the mark of a good coach - one that tries different things and motivates his team to win when it really matters.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:53 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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quote: I'm not always sold on CPM
I should clarify and you are right to laugh at that.
I watch intermittently since I no longer live near LA. So, I'm usually not paying much attention until LSU is on National channels. Keeping up with the box scores, there seem to be so,e real low points. But such is baseball.
I started this thread to simply group "ponder" how he he gets his teams to come through in the clutch. It's not an easy thing to teach and some may argue you can't teach leadership of that sort.
I will say that I appreciate that CPM annually keeps it interesting. I like that we are the team that you should never count out.
Hope we go to Oregon and crush some beaver. But if not, we are still in the dance. Something to be said for always being in the conversation.
Relevance.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 11:17 pm to John Cocktosten
Exactly. He's not Skip, but who is?
The point is if CPM would have followed Skip, he wouldn’t have a job.
Just like if FB had a Smoke between Saban and Miles. miles would still be the coach.
CPM is doing a good/competent job. It's up to the LSU brass to decide if that's going to continue to be good enough ?
The point is if CPM would have followed Skip, he wouldn’t have a job.
Just like if FB had a Smoke between Saban and Miles. miles would still be the coach.
CPM is doing a good/competent job. It's up to the LSU brass to decide if that's going to continue to be good enough ?
Posted on 5/28/18 at 11:21 pm to LSU4Life1965
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The point is if CPM would have followed Skip, he wouldn’t have a job.
What? Bro he had to follow Smoke and rebuild a program.
Are you forgetting the man won a National Championship and played for another? He’s pretty good...
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 5/29/18 at 4:05 am to GeorgeTheGreek
I think he’s trying to say immediately following the legend means expectations would have been so high that even he would not have met them..
I disagree with his thinking. CPM had to rebuild and then sustain. If he followed Skip he probably has enough success to sustain and possibly even more accomplishments.
I disagree with his thinking. CPM had to rebuild and then sustain. If he followed Skip he probably has enough success to sustain and possibly even more accomplishments.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 5:02 am to John Cocktosten
We're keeping CPM, dammit. Last thing we need is for Alleva to conduct another search and land us with Javi or promote one of the team managers.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:28 am to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:oh not this again. i thought i had effectively dealt with this last year.
How may straight National Seeds have we had until this year?
national seeds are voted on by a subjective panel of flawed, politically motivated people. they have nothing to do with postseason record. you know, the real world. national seeds are not an accomplishment. they are a reward. totally different.
elite teams are measured by cws record. that's why i was really down on pm last year. he was getting bested by several inferior programs at the cws. however, last year turned out to be probably his best coaching at lsu. the postseason was masterful with a team that had underwhelmed during the regular season. i definitely think he vaulted back up to a top 5 coach nationally. however, no program should be head and shoulders above lsu like florida is. that's a legit knock on pm. and if they win a couple of cws games this year, they're just widening the gap. even if lsu somehow makes it to the finals against a different team, that would just put a dent in the lead florida has over lsu right now.
which leads to this season. if labas\storz\walker had panned out which was out of his control, this season would have been better. so, i still think he has a chance to stay in the top 5 given the conditions he faced and depending on who does what at the cws. if the tigers can make it past corvallis, that would be another fairly impressive season given the pitching injuries. if not, he's likely to slip again because other programs will make the cws and have some wins there.
imo, there's really good reason for optimism next year. should be plenty of good/really good arms coming back. pm's teams always field well. as long as the hitting is above average, lsu should host at least a regional
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:45 am to bfniii
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national seeds are voted on by a subjective panel of flawed, politically motivated people.
So which years were LSU not deserving of a top 8 seed, but were propped up by this politically-charged panel?
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:49 am to bfniii
quote:
national seeds are voted on by a subjective panel of flawed, politically motivated people. they have nothing to do with postseason record. you know, the real world. national seeds are not an accomplishment. they are a reward. totally different.
Wait... I'm allowed one more.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:12 am to John Cocktosten
quote:
What's the magic there?
Ask Gerry Dinardo, he brought it back.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 1:38 pm to Broski
quote:the real question is if any team has ever been "deserving" but was not rewarded. the answer is obviously yes. every season.
So which years were LSU not deserving of a top 8 seed
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