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re: Lunardi Bracketology (LSU - 5 seed)

Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:21 am to
Posted by LaBR4
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:21 am to
Posted by MoneyShot
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:21 am to
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One bit of caution, however. The next 3 games are against some pretty weak (metric-wise) teams. That means unless LSU blows them out, it's possible they win the game and still DROP in the rankings.


Points won by is capped at 10.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:33 am to
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Points won by is capped at 10.


But not efficiency which is a higher weighted metric in NET.

Which is why the margin of victory metric shouldn't be in NET calculation; it already is with efficiency.
Posted by ClientNumber9
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:46 am to
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You realize 7-8-9 are playing each other in most cases.....that is why it appears to be 50/50


Do you realize the chart he posted is for the SECOND round of the tourney, not the first. So this is after the 8-9 or 7-10 game.
Posted by Lsutigerturner
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:58 am to
Wow that's a bad arse matrix thanks for the link! It's getting saved 100
Posted by LSUButt
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:03 am to
Theoretically, Duke is an awful matchup for anyone...but most people haven’t even really watched Duke. They have 3 players, and then a guard who sort of runs things. Duke will not make the Final Four. They are one of the thinnest teams in America. Against Virginia, they had 4 guys play over 37 minutes, and only 2 players reach double figures. Against Florida State, a mutual opponent, they had to come back in that game and win by 2.

There is not a single team that is a bad matchup for LSU. In fact, I could continue arguing at length that LSU is perhaps the worst matchups Duke could have.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:06 am to
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Wow that's a bad arse matrix thanks for the link! It's getting saved 100


yep I've been using it since 2015. Its great also because it links the bracketology at the top so you can go to each one also if it interests you.
Posted by iamandykeim
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:08 am to
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Pretty sure Duke is a terrible matchup for MOST teams

agreed. what I mean though is that we perform really well when we can out-athlete teams (which we can do to nearly every team in the country outside of a few). A matchup like Gonzaga or Michigan State or Virginia would be good because we're more athletic than those teams. Duke is quite possibly the most athletic team of all time. Altough, Syracuse was able to beat them going toe-to-toe with their freak athletes, so who knows.
Posted by tigahlovah
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:14 am to
Duke also had 6 starters out against the 'cluse. If that pg didn't hurt his shoulder early, they would have blown those girls out by 25-30.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:16 am to
6 starters? Does not compute.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:20 am to
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But not efficiency which is a higher weighted metric in NET.

Which is why the margin of victory metric shouldn't be in NET calculation; it already is with efficiency.


It shouldn't be in there because of how meaningless a <10 point margin of victory is. There are huge blowout games that end in less than 10 pt wins because of garbage 3s and there are very close games that end in 10 pt wins because of garbage time intentional fouling.

They need to make it less important in the formula, but also cap it at 20.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:23 am to
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There is not a single team that is a bad matchup for LSU.


I think a ball-control team that has a great TO/AST ratio with great foul discipline and solid perimeter shooting is a bad matchup for us.

We can hang with any team that relies on athleticism and fast breaks to outscore folks though.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:24 am to
5-5 over our last 10 games isn't a strong finish. That may keep us from getting any better than a 5 seed even if we do go 13-5 in conference.

Posted by MoneyShot
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:38 am to
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But not efficiency which is a higher weighted metric in NET.

Which is why the margin of victory metric shouldn't be in NET calculation; it already is with efficiency.


I didn't realize this. Thanks.
Posted by tigerclaw10
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:56 am to
We might actually be one of the better equipped teams to face duke with our size and athleticism in the paint. Also, I feel like right now, Naz gets called for everything because he’s just so much more powerful than everyone else on the court, he could guard Zion pretty well I feel and not pick up a ton of fouls.
Posted by tigerclaw10
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:57 am to
We aren’t losing 3 in a row, just won’t happen.
Posted by BayouBengal
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 11:08 am to
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He doesnt claim to predict future results but his brackets are supposed to depict the scene if the tournament started today. He isn't saying LSU will be a 5 seed, he's saying if the tournament started today LSU would likely be around there.



Excellent disclaimer. When looking at brackets we need to be sure that it's a projection versus ranking as of today.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 11:11 am to
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he could guard Zion pretty well I feel and not pick up a ton of fouls.

That’s actually the matchup I’d be really worried about. Not just Naz, but anyone.

I don’t think we’d be able to play straight up man defense against Duke. Outside of Zion though , I actually feel pretty good about a potential matchup against Duke. This is probably the worst 3 pt shooting Duke team I’ve ever seen.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 11:14 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 11:14 am to
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We aren’t losing 3 in a row, just won’t happen.



3 stout teams. It could happen. Probably won't, but I wouldn't say impossible.
Posted by The Truth 34
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 11:26 am to
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he could guard Zion pretty well I feel and not pick up a ton of fouls.


Naz would be on the bench with 2 fouls in less than 3 minutes. He’s not quick enough to guard Zion.
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