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re: LSU's rushing attack is vastly underrated
Posted on 12/16/11 at 12:22 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Posted on 12/16/11 at 12:22 pm to Tigerpaul1969
I think you're right about this. I think LSU's offense started running the ball well against Bama as the first game wore on, and I think they're licking their chops to get at them again. When it's all over on 1/9 LSU's OL will have won the battle in the trenches. We're going to need that to offset the fact that Bama is bound to have more success throwing the ball downfield this time. They didn't get squat last time in spite of coming very close twice.
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Posted on 12/16/11 at 12:23 pm to bama1959
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BTW, just so you think I'm not a complete homer. LSU is #1 in rushing in SEC only games. Bama is #2. We had virtually an identical schedule in the SEC. This does not count the SECCG. Avg Yards/gm 220.4/205.0 LSU/Bama.
These teams are virtual mirror images on Offense and Defense. The major difference between them is LSU's special teams is better. This is why I'm always a little surprised that Bama gets so much more love from the talking heads. Whatever.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 12:45 pm to Camp Randall
LSU's run game is significantly more dynamic with hilliard than ware. ware is all about punishing the first guy to tackle him. you can tell he ;lacks experience as a big, down hill RB. with hilliard, you can tell hes had 1000 carries in high school as a power RB. he powerful, yet runs to daylight. i like ware, but were a better team when hilliard is toting the rock
Posted on 12/16/11 at 12:48 pm to Camp Randall
quote:i think bama has the better passing offense simply b/c they utilize richardson in the passing game significantly better than we use ours. with us passing, its either a deep ball or a sack. never check it down to RBs in space. bama does this effectively. thats where they get their edge in passing offense
These teams are virtual mirror images on Offense and Defense
Posted on 12/16/11 at 12:58 pm to Stagg8
We also ran a buck 45 on Bama in limited carries
Posted on 12/16/11 at 1:00 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
I think Ware has been injured... I expect him to start and be the back we have come to expect
Then Hillard will blow up Bama in the 4th
Then Hillard will blow up Bama in the 4th
Posted on 12/16/11 at 1:20 pm to ApexTiger
Ware is slightly lower than Richardson, but LSU has so many good backs it doesn't matter, Hilliard will be just as good as Richardson maybe better with his size and elusiveness. The problem is Hilliard won't get the touches he needs to establish himself as a dominant back because LSU has so many good backs that they use them as a commitee.
if Hilliard were on another college team he would be the feature back and a Heismann candidate.
if Hilliard were on another college team he would be the feature back and a Heismann candidate.
This post was edited on 12/16/11 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 12/16/11 at 1:39 pm to Camp Randall
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These teams are virtual mirror images on Offense and Defense. The major difference between them is LSU's special teams is better. This is why I'm always a little surprised that Bama gets so much more love from the talking heads. Whatever.
You can't put LSU's passing game in the same bucket. AJ is not a great passer but he's a lot better than JJ or JL. LSU is ranked 105 in yards/game out of 120. That's terrible. Bama's not great but not that bad at 72.
Defense is close but we're still significantly higher. In SEC only stats Bama is #1 and LSU #2 but yards allowed are 180 vs 224 which quite a large difference for a 1 and 2.
You have a great punter who can flip the field but the real difference in net punting is only 5 yards. FG's is signficant. LSU has made all of their SEC 14 attempts and Bama in only 11/18.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 1:45 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Underrated you say? Our entire defense is underrated if you listen to certain media outlets. O well though. We know what we are! 
Posted on 12/16/11 at 2:21 pm to tubucoco
I like Hilliard a lot, but to say he is gonna be better than TRich is being a big homer. TRich is Bama's only real offensive weapon and everyone knows he is getting the ball. TRICH is the best rb prospect since APeterson.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 2:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You misconstrued what I said, I said if he were on another college team that used him as their feature back that he would be just as good or even better which is not farfetched at all. The guy is bigger than Richardson, has the agility of a smaller back, but can run you over with power if need be. Nothing is homer about that, but he won't get the touches a Richardson does because LSU employs a run by commitee style on offense.
If Hilliard were with let's say a team like Ole Miss were he would be the main guy, people would be sayin the same thing about him that you are sayin about Richardson. To not see that is blind.
If Hilliard were with let's say a team like Ole Miss were he would be the main guy, people would be sayin the same thing about him that you are sayin about Richardson. To not see that is blind.
This post was edited on 12/16/11 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 12/16/11 at 3:18 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Bama's rush defense and rush offense is better than ours.
Yet, we rushed for more yards than they did when we played them.
Yet, we rushed for more yards than they did when we played them.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 3:27 pm to Tigerpaul1969
I've been saying for weeks that if you swapped the two teams schedules around the Tigers would have averaged around 250 ypg rushing, possibly more. It's a flat-out joke to have watched both teams all year and suggest that 'Bama is superior to LSU in any phase of their offense. TR is the best single player but collectively the Tiger running backs have the edge on 'Bama as they've already proven head to head. Blue and Hilliard will ramp up their games to bolster what Ford, and Ware did the first go-round. I look for LSU to crack 200 yards on the ground this time while holding 'Bama to 100 or less.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 3:29 pm to noonan
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Bama's rush defense and rush offense is better than ours. Yet, we rushed for more yards than they did when we played them.
You are correct, but that is LOGICAL...but when dealing with Gumps/media etc that word is not in the vocabulary.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 3:33 pm to bama1959
quote:Jefferson is a big part of LSU's run offense. Even when he is not carrying the ball, he occupies a defender on options and zone reads.
We have the best RB but you get a lot of yards from your QB that we don't get. Fact is we lose yards at QB due to sacks. AJ runs less than any QB we've had in years.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 3:34 pm to bama1989
quote:surely you joke, McCaron is a average QB. He is not a better passer than JL who was benced for reasons I'll never know. And he is on par with JJ to me, McCaron when he throws only goes to Richardosn out of the backfield. He is afraid to throw downfield and I expect us to take advantage of this this time around.
AJ is not a great passer but he's a lot better than JJ or JL.
This post was edited on 12/16/11 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 12/16/11 at 4:10 pm to kudu
Remember Hillard in the same class as Richardson? Hell yes & he is a pure freshman! 
Posted on 12/16/11 at 4:25 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Richardson is the best player.
LSU has the best overall attack.
LSU has the best overall attack.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 4:54 pm to tubucoco
If Hilliard were with let's say a team like Ole Miss were he would be the main guy, people would be sayin the same thing about him that you are sayin about Richardson. To not see that is blind.
This statement is showing the biased view. I bleed purple and gold but to say that Hilliard would be a heisman candidate if only he had the touches is being a homer. As of right now Hilird doesn't have the agility or breakaway speed of Trich. Hilliard is a bigger back, but only by 15 or so pounds and TRich runs harder. I guess you missed Nov5 when TRich was ran over a lineman or two of ours. Hilliard could get to TRich's level, but at this point we don't know. To assume he will is being a homer.
This statement is showing the biased view. I bleed purple and gold but to say that Hilliard would be a heisman candidate if only he had the touches is being a homer. As of right now Hilird doesn't have the agility or breakaway speed of Trich. Hilliard is a bigger back, but only by 15 or so pounds and TRich runs harder. I guess you missed Nov5 when TRich was ran over a lineman or two of ours. Hilliard could get to TRich's level, but at this point we don't know. To assume he will is being a homer.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 5:34 pm to tubucoco
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You misconstrued what I said, I said if he were on another college team that used him as their feature back that he would be just as good or even better which is not farfetched at all. The guy is bigger than Richardson, has the agility of a smaller back, but can run you over with power if need be. Nothing is homer about that, but he won't get the touches a Richardson does because LSU employs a run by commitee style on offense.
If Hilliard were with let's say a team like Ole Miss were he would be the main guy, people would be sayin the same thing about him that you are sayin about Richardson. To not see that is blind.
and Alabama fans are the delusional ones? Just because hes a RB on LSU...doesn't mean he is anywhere near Trent Richardson's level...WOW no one outside of LSU thinks Hillard is anywhere near him...HOMER HOMER HOMER.
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