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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:41 pm to Goldrush25
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You don't offload o-line players then get to cry about a lack of quality/depth.
LSU has gone thru 10 lineman and is 8-2, and you think im complaining about depth? lol
LSU has depth, as this season has proven. The point is how stretched thin it has been. It's stretched to a point where no team would have suitable lineman left to play.
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How many linemen were asked to leave the program when Orgeron got the job?
The numbers are the same. The players that left weren't good.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:42 pm to releauxded2469
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Did you ever take time to think that their offensive scheme is less demanding on their o linemen? While you are comparing teams, how bout you be a good chap and tell us where each team is ranked offensively.
well, Washington St definitely is. They run the ball 28% of the time. Which would never work in the SEC for a winning program.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:43 pm to abellsujr
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Would our offense be better if we had more starts from our original starting line? Sure.
at least you admit it
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:43 pm to Goldrush25
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How many linemen were asked to leave the program when Orgeron got the job?
You don't offload o-line players then get to cry about a lack of quality/depth.
Wait... what?
So, let me get this straight...
On the one hand, I'm learning that LSU does not have an elite offensive coordinator.
On the other hand, I'm being told that said coordinator did not have the chance to succeed because a number of offensive linemen left the program when Orgeron was hired?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:45 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Of course. I don't think anyone denies that. No injuries on oline? Good. Injuries on oline? Bad. That's not exactly a revolutionary conclusion there.
at least you admit it
Just like you said it's not a revolutionary conclusion that a better OC can have better results.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:46 pm to abellsujr
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Of course. I don't think anyone denies that. No injuries on oline? Good. Injuries on oline? Bad. That's not exactly a revolutionary conclusion there.
Just like you said it's not a revolutionary conclusion that a better OC can have better results.
Those things are not mutually exclusive. I love how you keep thinking you are booming me by saying there are better OCs out there.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:47 pm to abellsujr
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Just like you said it's not a revolutionary conclusion that a better OC can have better results.
I like Ensminger, but I'm confident LSU could hire a much better OC.
I think OC > OL talent, TBH, given what I've seen from this team in 2018.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:49 pm to Lester Earl
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Houston starting 5 has started 59/60 games.
Houston also went from like 75 to 5 in offense in one year so I think the OC may have some impact there don't you think?
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:50 pm to Lester Earl
quote:At least you admit it.
there are better OCs out there.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:55 pm to Tiger Tracker
I’m not taking anything away from their OCs.
But this is the kind of health good teams have.
Another guy in another thread said mike leach could have our offense in the top 20 bwhahahaha
But this is the kind of health good teams have.
Another guy in another thread said mike leach could have our offense in the top 20 bwhahahaha
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:00 pm to Lester Earl
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I’m not taking anything away from their OCs.
But this is the kind of health good teams have.
Another guy in another thread said mike leach could have our offense in the top 20 bwhahahaha
I'm not sure what the point of your thread is then. I think everyone (who lives in reality) realizes our o line is depleted and our OC needs to be changed.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:02 pm to Tiger Tracker
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then. I think everyone (who lives in reality) realizes our o line is depleted
News flash; they don’t acknowledge that
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:03 pm to Lester Earl
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Another guy in another thread said mike leach could have our offense in the top 20 bwhahahaha
They'd be much better than they are now.
Think that's all we're asking, get the best guy for the job. Issues with personnel are not controllable. What they can control is who the OC is.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:05 pm to Lester Earl
Here’s WSU’s starting OL:
RT: Abraham Lucas (3*, 50th OT)
RG: josh Watson (3*, 103 OT)
C: Frederick Mauigua (3*, 27th OG)
LG: Liam Ryan (2*, 178th OT)
LT: Andre Dillard (3*, 128th OT)
Now LSU’s:
LT: Charles (4*, 18th OG)
LG: Brumfield (4*, 6th OG)
C: Cushenberry (3*, 82 OG)
RG: Lewis (3* JUCO, 2nd OG)
RT: Deculus (4*, 10th OT)
WSU has maybe 1 guy that would start on LSUs OL. I can’t believe you are really running with the idea that Washington State and Houston have a better OL than LSU.
RT: Abraham Lucas (3*, 50th OT)
RG: josh Watson (3*, 103 OT)
C: Frederick Mauigua (3*, 27th OG)
LG: Liam Ryan (2*, 178th OT)
LT: Andre Dillard (3*, 128th OT)
Now LSU’s:
LT: Charles (4*, 18th OG)
LG: Brumfield (4*, 6th OG)
C: Cushenberry (3*, 82 OG)
RG: Lewis (3* JUCO, 2nd OG)
RT: Deculus (4*, 10th OT)
WSU has maybe 1 guy that would start on LSUs OL. I can’t believe you are really running with the idea that Washington State and Houston have a better OL than LSU.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:06 pm to Goldrush25
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Issues with personnel are not controllable. What they can control is who the OC is.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:08 pm to Lester Earl
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News flash; they don’t acknowledge that
They do they just don't concede that is the biggest problem with the offense, which it isn't. Coaching is. O line is a temporary problem the offensive philosophy must change or it won't matter who we have on the o line.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:11 pm to Lester Earl
Yep. Not to mention we have youth and inexperience all over the place. I don't count Lewis and traore as being experienced either, junior college ball doesn't prepare you for the sec. Especially the defensive front 7s like alabama. Cush is young, deculus is young, Magee is just average, brumfield had been hurt, Hines is a freshman, traore and Lewis are jc transfers being introduced to the sec, and all of this is with a brand new ol coach this season.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:14 pm to Tiger Tracker
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They do they just don't concede that is the biggest problem with the offense, which it isn't.
Well you lost me here. It is blatant at this point.
Play calling had been fine up to bama game.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:15 pm to Tiger Tracker
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quote: Houston starting 5 has started 59/60 games. Houston also went from like 75 to 5 in offense in one year so I think the OC may have some impact there don't you think? This post was edited on 11/12 at 7:50 pm
Naah.. Man.
It doesn't have much to do with Briles. That OL just needed another 10 more starts together to jump 70 spots in the offensive rankings.
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