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LSU's Kevin Minter: Fatigue 'took over' at Florida guilbeau
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:32 pm
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BATON ROUGE — There have been many reasons cited for LSU’s loss at Florida onSaturday — mounting injuries, penalties, dropped passes, fumbles and the inability to protect quarterback Zach Mettenberger.
Those are all valid, but a new one has surfaced that does not sound right on the surface.
It was too hot.
LSU players complaining of the heat is sort of like a musher saying he lost the Iditarod because it was too cold. The Tigers practice virtually every day in August in 90-plus degree heat and often play amid such temperatures even at night, including this season. The Florida game, which LSU lost 14-6 after leading 6-0 at the half, was LSU’s first day game of the season. And it was hot in Gainesville, but the temperature never got into the 90s.
LSU did clearly wilt as the game went on, though. Florida outscored the Tigers 14-0 in the second half while collecting 16 first downs to four and totalling 190 yards to 119. Florida tailback Mike Gillislee gained 112 of his 146 yards in the second half, including 52 yards on 12 carries in the fourth quarter. The Gators repeatedly punched at the belly of the tiring Tigers, running on every play of the fourth quarter — 24 straight times.
“They couldn’t stop us,” Florida guard Jon Halapio said. “They were very tired toward the end of the game. You could see that in their facial expressions, especially in their technique and their play.”
LSU coach Les Miles did not see it that way.
“I thought we fought like hell,” he said. “It is not an effort thing. I enjoyed my team’s effort.”
His players, though, agreed with Halapio’s assessment.
“We worked super hard during the week to come out and play two dominant halves,” defensive end Sam Montgomery said. “Sadly, our stamina couldn’t hold up.”
It wasn’t the heat, middle linebacker Kevin Minter said, as much as it was the humidity.
“It is Florida,” Minter said. “The humidity is ridiculous.”
Minter cramped up in the third quarter and had to be taken to the locker room for intravenous fluids, but he came back to continue a tackling clinic as he set an LSU record with 17 solo stops, including two sacks, and finished with 20 total tackles — one off the school record. He added a forced fumble and another stop behind the line.
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p.s. note in title: guilbeau!!! don't read if you don't read guilbeau!!!
BATON ROUGE — There have been many reasons cited for LSU’s loss at Florida onSaturday — mounting injuries, penalties, dropped passes, fumbles and the inability to protect quarterback Zach Mettenberger.
Those are all valid, but a new one has surfaced that does not sound right on the surface.
It was too hot.
LSU players complaining of the heat is sort of like a musher saying he lost the Iditarod because it was too cold. The Tigers practice virtually every day in August in 90-plus degree heat and often play amid such temperatures even at night, including this season. The Florida game, which LSU lost 14-6 after leading 6-0 at the half, was LSU’s first day game of the season. And it was hot in Gainesville, but the temperature never got into the 90s.
LSU did clearly wilt as the game went on, though. Florida outscored the Tigers 14-0 in the second half while collecting 16 first downs to four and totalling 190 yards to 119. Florida tailback Mike Gillislee gained 112 of his 146 yards in the second half, including 52 yards on 12 carries in the fourth quarter. The Gators repeatedly punched at the belly of the tiring Tigers, running on every play of the fourth quarter — 24 straight times.
“They couldn’t stop us,” Florida guard Jon Halapio said. “They were very tired toward the end of the game. You could see that in their facial expressions, especially in their technique and their play.”
LSU coach Les Miles did not see it that way.
“I thought we fought like hell,” he said. “It is not an effort thing. I enjoyed my team’s effort.”
His players, though, agreed with Halapio’s assessment.
“We worked super hard during the week to come out and play two dominant halves,” defensive end Sam Montgomery said. “Sadly, our stamina couldn’t hold up.”
It wasn’t the heat, middle linebacker Kevin Minter said, as much as it was the humidity.
“It is Florida,” Minter said. “The humidity is ridiculous.”
Minter cramped up in the third quarter and had to be taken to the locker room for intravenous fluids, but he came back to continue a tackling clinic as he set an LSU record with 17 solo stops, including two sacks, and finished with 20 total tackles — one off the school record. He added a forced fumble and another stop behind the line.
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p.s. note in title: guilbeau!!! don't read if you don't read guilbeau!!!
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:34 pm to blackjackjackson
Replace the word humidity with offense and that's what minter wanted to say IMHO
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:36 pm to blackjackjackson
The defense was on the field for seventy plays. Kenyan runners would be winded by that point. They still only gave up 14 points, and about three yards per play.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:38 pm to DanglingFury
with our offense this bad, it will take an effect on our defense.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:40 pm to blackjackjackson
Minter played about the equivalent of 3 games as hard as he went...although I'm sure Guilbeau is doing his usual hack job of taking quotes out of context and manufacturing a story
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:40 pm to DanglingFury
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The defense was on the field for seventy plays. Kenyan runners would be winded by that point. They still only gave up 14 points, and about three yards per play.
This.
To the OP: Which is why I stated yesterday that we need to provide different plays on offense, to provide at least a new wrinkle for the opposing defense to wonder about.
You got a little heated yesterday. I'm not holding a grudge though. We pull for the same team.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:02 am to blackjackjackson
No shite he got tired. He was all over the fricking place Saturday.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:22 am to la_birdman
i will not try to be heated.
tonite on tigerrag radio, the statman said we threw 60% of our plays. almost 50% in first half.
that is very DIFFERENT!! from anything we have everr done in miles' tenure.
we did run 9 times straight at first down, but overall, we ran a totally DIFFERENT gameplan than anyone on the rant could have forecasted. (and NONE did.)
lsu HAS to change for mett to be successful. just b/c a few knew better than miles is pure conjecture.
tonite on tigerrag radio, the statman said we threw 60% of our plays. almost 50% in first half.
that is very DIFFERENT!! from anything we have everr done in miles' tenure.
we did run 9 times straight at first down, but overall, we ran a totally DIFFERENT gameplan than anyone on the rant could have forecasted. (and NONE did.)
lsu HAS to change for mett to be successful. just b/c a few knew better than miles is pure conjecture.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:22 am to blackjackjackson
It wasn't really the heat. The defense was simply on the field too long because our incompetent offense couldn't sustain a drive and stay on the field long for the D to catch their breaths.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:24 am to blackjackjackson
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i will not try to be heated.
No biggie, man. In my book, we're cool.
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lsu HAS to change for mett to be successful.
I agree. The offense as a whole needs to change.
This post was edited on 10/10/12 at 12:26 am
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:26 am to lsufan_26
It was pretty humid in Gainesville Saturday
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:27 am to Effthatnoise
It's no more humid in Gainesville than it is here. I lived in Orlando for 11 years.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:27 am to Effthatnoise
Maybe should play Oregon early in the season again. Seemed to work great for conditioning the rest of the year.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:28 am to DanglingFury
And I've seen comments knocking Moffit and/or Minter for conditioning. Smh
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Maybe should play Oregon early in the season again. Seemed to work great for conditioning the rest of the year.
Or a big name opponent. I tend to agree.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:31 am to biglego
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And I've seen comments knocking Moffit and/or Minter for conditioning
I haven't seen that but that's retarded.
Moffit needs to stay here. He's a largely unsung factor which is messed up.
The guy is great at what he does and IMO he's very unappreciated.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:45 am to Effthatnoise
I know I was there. It's not like they're not used to playing in the heat, they were just on the field too long in the 2nd half.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Maybe should play Oregon early in the season again. Seemed to work great for conditioning the rest of the year.
This.
I think the offseason specialized training for the Oregon game played a huge factor in how successful our D was. That was one of my main concerns going into this year. I knew our defense was going to be good, but I was expecting a drop off because of this.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:52 am to blackjackjackson
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It was too hot.
It was pretty warm for a while, but once the sun started going down it was actually pretty nice.
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“They couldn’t stop us,” Florida guard Jon Halapio said. “They were very tired toward the end of the game. You could see that in their facial expressions, especially in their technique and their play.”
I'm sure he was talking about the defense, which has to do double duty for the offense?
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LSU coach Les Miles did not see it that way.
“I thought we fought like hell,” he said. “It is not an effort thing. I enjoyed my team’s effort.”
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“It is Florida,” Minter said. “The humidity is ridiculous.”
Has he been to Louisiana?
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:57 am to blackjackjackson
I was at the game, and it was ridiculously hot until the 4th quarter. It was probably hotter at that game than all but maybe a handful of games I've seen in Tiger Stadium over the years (Kentucky last year, App State 08, ect.)
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