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Posted on 9/20/09 at 5:42 pm to LSU Slacker
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Jefferson is the start; sure I would like to see Lee get a few chances in live game action but not at the expense of Jefferson.
that's what 99% of us are advocating...
Posted on 9/20/09 at 5:44 pm to TheDoc
Its plain that certain posters have an agenda, they want JJ to start for some reason, or Lee.
Why do you people give a rat sass? JJ is STARTING now, and will continue. If he can't cut it in SEC play, Lee will hopefully get the chance, maybe a couple series a game to see if he can ramp up the offense. If he can, lets play the guy who can move the chains.
300 yards per game and 25 pts isn't going to cut it against top SEC play. One must improve or the other needs to get more PT
Is there a problem with this concept???
Why do you people give a rat sass? JJ is STARTING now, and will continue. If he can't cut it in SEC play, Lee will hopefully get the chance, maybe a couple series a game to see if he can ramp up the offense. If he can, lets play the guy who can move the chains.
300 yards per game and 25 pts isn't going to cut it against top SEC play. One must improve or the other needs to get more PT
Is there a problem with this concept???
Posted on 9/20/09 at 5:46 pm to jacquespene8
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and by that I mean, I think we need to try Lee in the mix a lot more. HOWEVER, we should support Jefferson because we know he will be under center for us, and we gotta support our players, always.
Here's my thinking on that inside the mind of Miles and Crowton.
Whats the upside or rather what does Lee bring to the table that either Jefferson or Shepard doesnt?
I dont see it. Jefferson CAN THROW the ball. Like other qb's he needs work. He's slowly but steadily has gotten better. His timing is off right now but that will come with practice and more gametime snaps.
Shepard can run those zone reads and option plays. JL cant.
In saying alll of that...........I agree that JL should be in the mix more. JJ has been exposed to too many hits. Lets face it, in SEC play QB's are big bullseyes for future NFL draft picks on defense. JL should and needs to be ready. But its hard for him to do that riding pine. We have yet to be put in a position where Lee can come in and do a legitimate cleanup. We have yet to be up by 30 going into the 3rd quarter.
Posted on 9/20/09 at 5:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Its plain that certain posters have an agenda, they want JJ to start for some reason, or Lee.
Why do you people give a rat sass? JJ is STARTING now, and will continue. If he can't cut it in SEC play, Lee will hopefully get the chance, maybe a couple series a game to see if he can ramp up the offense. If he can, lets play the guy who can move the chains.
+1
300 yards per game and 25 pts isn't going to cut it against top SEC play. One must improve or the other needs to get more PT
Is there a problem with this concept???
Posted on 9/20/09 at 5:48 pm to amarti9
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Whats the upside or rather what does Lee bring to the table that either Jefferson or Shepard doesnt?
quicker release, more accurate
Posted on 9/20/09 at 5:52 pm to ForeLSU
Its kind of hard for me to accept a guy being more accurate when he throws 16 picks, 7 returned for touchdowns.
Yea, he's accurate all rite. Ole Miss, Georgia, Bama, Florida, Auburn, Troy all told me so. He hit them between the numbers.
Yea, he's accurate all rite. Ole Miss, Georgia, Bama, Florida, Auburn, Troy all told me so. He hit them between the numbers.
Posted on 9/20/09 at 5:54 pm to amarti9
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Its kind of hard for me to accept a guy being more accurate when he throws 16 picks, 7 returned for touchdowns.
Yea, he's accurate all rite. Ole Miss, Georgia, Bama, Florida, Auburn, Troy all told me so. He hit them between the numbers.
Its kind of hard for me to accept a guy being more accurate when he throws 16 picks, 7 returned for touchdowns.
Yea, he's accurate all rite. Ole Miss, Georgia, Bama, Florida, Auburn, Troy all told me so. He hit them between the numbers.
You are truly clueless. J. Lee's problem wasn't accuracy, it was not reading the defense. His own admission was that last year he should have spent more time studying.
Posted on 9/20/09 at 5:57 pm to amarti9
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Its kind of hard for me to accept a guy being more accurate when he throws 16 picks, 7 returned for touchdowns.
a number of those picks where thrown right to the receiver, the problem was a safety or linebacker read the play and got there first...that is not an accuracy issue. Some of you guys are so blinded by your obsession with the "pick-6" that you've lost the ability to objectively analyze why, where and how problems occur.
Posted on 9/20/09 at 5:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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His own admission was that last year he should have spent more time studying.
Yea I guess we should just believe that without question since it can't be possible that he was trying to cover his arse or anything.
Posted on 9/20/09 at 6:03 pm to olomgamer231
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Yea I guess we should just believe that without question since it can't be possible that he was trying to cover his arse or anything.
You and your ilk will believe what the hell you want to anyway.
Posted on 9/20/09 at 6:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You are truly clueless. J. Lee's problem wasn't accuracy, it was not reading the defense. His own admission was that last year he should have spent more time studying.
Oh please tell me you dont believe that. It wasnt just because he couldnt read the defense. There were times when he knew they were in a zone and he couldnt throw the correct pass AWAY from coverage.
This is why coaches like Saban, Nutt and Meyer starting zoning up the middle and man-ing up the corners.
They KNEW he was not able to hit dead center. I saw at least 4 times with both Bama and Ole miss where they would show man while he was under center.......and quickly go to zone-man or a man-zone where they zoned up the middle of the field. They baited him to throw up the middle and took away some of those WR sideline passes. When he tried to throw into those zones..........
....you know the rest. Yes, you are correct that a lot of times he misread the D. But there were occasions where it was obvious and he was off.
Posted on 9/20/09 at 6:05 pm to ForeLSU
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a number of those picks where thrown right to the receiver, the problem was a safety or linebacker read the play and got there first...that is not an accuracy issue. Some of you guys are so blinded by your obsession with the "pick-6" that you've lost the ability to objectively analyze why, where and how problems occur.
Yes........a number of those.
However a "number of those" were passes that were off. I guess in the end we all see what we want to see. And no, Im not obssessed with the pick sixes........its just those are what probably cost us the game.
Posted on 9/20/09 at 6:08 pm to jacquespene8
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some of you are fricking morons
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>You nailed it.
If you had only seen how good looking those morons are...
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some of you are fricking morons
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>You nailed it.
If you had only seen how good looking those morons are...
Posted on 9/20/09 at 6:09 pm to ready4something
so with all the chances given to secure the job spring, summer, fall scrimmages a full year more in the system, LSU should be having a qb competition during the season? He lost the starting job and he was not able to win it back. JJ is the starter.
this is it and it can be no other way. as long as we are winning and improving and JJ is improving, playing "musical QB's" would be a big mistake. if Lee was starting right now, we would have the same conversation. the 2nd string QB is always the best, no matter what level.
this is it and it can be no other way. as long as we are winning and improving and JJ is improving, playing "musical QB's" would be a big mistake. if Lee was starting right now, we would have the same conversation. the 2nd string QB is always the best, no matter what level.
Posted on 9/20/09 at 6:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You and your ilk will believe what the hell you want to anyway.
So you don't think it's possible for a quarterback to be too stupid to read a defense? That's exactly why JaMarcus Russell isn't doing shite in the NFL. He has basically every intangible that you would ever want and he can't make it. Judging by last year and this spring Jarrett Lee isn't any different.
Posted on 9/20/09 at 6:12 pm to Lord Nelson
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it is painfully obvious Jefferson cannot make those
Yet...he's still learning.
Posted on 9/20/09 at 6:13 pm to olomgamer231
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So you don't think it's possible for a quarterback to be too stupid to read a defense? That's exactly why JaMarcus Russell isn't doing shite in the NFL. He has basically every intangible that you would ever want and he can't make it. Judging by last year and this spring Jarrett Lee isn't any different.
Case and point. You have already determined the reason for Lee and his INT's. You will believe what you choose to, based on your agenda.
Of course, there is no room for improvement. Glad Texas fans didn't turn on Colt McCoy after his soph season, UGA fans on Stafford after his frosh.....Again, Texas on Vince young after his frosh and sophmore.
Posted on 9/20/09 at 6:20 pm to LSUGoo
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JJ has more upside
Not really sure I agree with this. We have no vertical passing game right now, and JJ's throwing motion still gives me heartburn....
Posted on 9/20/09 at 6:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Hell Miles brought in RP every damn drive when Matt Flynn was marching down field and killed drive after drive. So why not play Lee some?
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