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re: LSU v. Alabama -- BCS NGC 01/09/12 @ Mercedes-Benz Superdome
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:22 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:22 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:Agreed. I posted this earlier and I just can't see how this is possible:
I will say i think it is strange certain computers didn't turn out the way people expected. I'm not saying its rigged ... just odd so many people got it wrong.
quote:
This is what really confuses me.
Before the Auburn game weekend where okie st was idle, the sagarin ratings were:
Bama - 98.90
Okie St - 98.03
After that weekend when bama beat then #17 in the elo chess Auburn, it jumped to:
Bama - 99.56
Okie St - 97.18
Then after Okie state beats the #6 team in the elo chess it just goes to
Bama - 99.49
Okie st - 97.81
That just makes no sense at all.
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:23 pm to gemlsu
quote:
What would you place the odds at of Okie St getting in?
20% at best right now. They got the required votes BUT they did not re-gain the ground they lost in the computers (I could not tell you why)
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:23 pm to CamdenTiger
quote:
ESPN has nothing to do with the BCS decision.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:23 pm to OneMoreTime
Yep. 
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:27 pm to OneMoreTime
quote:
Agreed. I posted this earlier and I just can't see how this is possible:
There must be some sort of weirdo ceiling calculations in there. I don't get it.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:29 pm to superloser
quote:
they aren't "pushing" Bama
With all due respect, you would have to either be terribly naive, or terribly unaware of the extent of the intense Abc/ESPN/bama dog and pony show of the last week to make that statement. It was an executive decision, it was virtually universal across the networks, with the language/arguments being completely sychophantic, and it is based on economic considerations that benefit ESPN/ABC.
ESPN/ABC/Disney abandoned any pretense of journalistic credibility YEARS ago. They are strictly entertainment and should be viewed as such. Contrast them with CBS/CBS Sportsline where there was no monolithic message in the last two weeks and where alternate views were entertained and explored.
They will take the LSU Bama game and promote the hell out of it and give us an epic production. That's what they do. they set the agenda, they promote some arguments/stifle competing views and make LOTS of cash money.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:31 pm to Lsupimp
so whats the point of PALM and EDWARDS jumping the gun. Why not just let it go down to the decision on the almighty BCS selection show??
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:31 pm to OneMoreTime
quote:
This is what really confuses me. Before the Auburn game weekend where okie st was idle, the sagarin ratings were: Bama - 98.90 Okie St - 98.03 After that weekend when bama beat then #17 in the elo chess Auburn, it jumped to: Bama - 99.56 Okie St - 97.18 Then after Okie state beats the #6 team in the elo chess it just goes to Bama - 99.49 Okie st - 97.81 That just makes no sense at all.
This. This. This.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:32 pm to Lsupimp
Well said pimp
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:32 pm to CE Tiger
EDWARDS jumping the gun is what I don't understand...
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:32 pm to Captain Want
CBS is reporting LSU vs Bama
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:32 pm to tiger1014
quote:
There must be some sort of weirdo ceiling calculations in there. I don't get it.
It's the "no one looking over my shoulder" factor that allows Sagarin to do whatever the frick he wants with no one able to dispute it.
That's the biggest disappointment to me in all this, that it very much looks like shady bullshite happened in the COMPUTERS which are supposed to be static entities not influenced by any lobbying bullshite.
Given that mistakes have happened AND BEEN CORRECTED in computer numbers in the recent years, I can't see any reason the algorithm, at least the particular one used by the BCS, isn't out for for checks and balances to be done. At least, I can't see any reason outside the ability to manipulate the numbers with no one noticing.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:35 pm to superloser
quote:
ESPN has nothing to do with the BCS decision. And, they aren't "pushing" Bama. They're expressing the opinion that Bama is the second best team in the nation.
You are naive. Have you ever watched ESPN college football coverage. You rarely get two talking heads to ever agree, by design I propose, yet they have all been in agreement on the Bama to BCSNC for two weeks now. Such agreement between talking heads on a call this close is impossible unless scripted by ESPN producers.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:37 pm to Eternalmajin
quote:Yeah, it's bullshite.
It's the "no one looking over my shoulder" factor that allows Sagarin to do whatever the frick he wants with no one able to dispute it.
That's the biggest disappointment to me in all this, that it very much looks like shady bullshite happened in the COMPUTERS which are supposed to be static entities not influenced by any lobbying bullshite.
Given that mistakes have happened AND BEEN CORRECTED in computer numbers in the recent years, I can't see any reason the algorithm, at least the particular one used by the BCS, isn't out for for checks and balances to be done. At least, I can't see any reason outside the ability to manipulate the numbers with no one noticing.
Like bmac tweeted earlier. If LSU-Bama is what it ends up being, I hope T Boone Pickens starts suing the frick out of everyone and forces some changes.
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:37 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
LSU winning the conference while ISU lost was huge.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:38 pm to CE Tiger
quote:
so whats the point of PALM and EDWARDS jumping the gun. Why not just let it go down to the decision on the almighty BCS selection show??
journalists love nothing more than to hear/read their own names. The fact that we are on hear talking about Palm & Edwards scooping the BCS info is the exact reason they leak the info. Half the people on this board didn't even know who Palm was this AM.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:38 pm to Starchild
quote:
ould you just imagine how epic the meltdown for Bama would be if all this shite came out and come selection show they announce Ok St at 2.
I wouldn't be able to handle the crying.
BAMA are nothing for me.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:39 pm to Eternalmajin
T. Boone gonna be "lol u mad"
quote:
boonepickens T. Boone Pickens
My bags are packed and I am ready to go to New Orleans. Already have my reservations at Holiday Inn Express. #okstate #bcs
6 hours ago
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:40 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Fake account. No way T Boone stays at Holiday Inn Express
Posted on 12/4/11 at 5:40 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
I wouldn't be surprised if this dude knew more than either Edwards or Palm.
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