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re: LSU Softball vs OU SEC tournament: OU Wins 4-1

Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by TygerLyfe
Member since May 2023
2638 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:09 pm to
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not a bad season.


Beth should use this as her opener for contract negotiations
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
887 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:19 pm to
We just disagree, I think many assistants would do the exact same thing that they did this yr. I’m not dumb enough to think that the salary would stay at that level for long. I do believe Travis Wilson, Singleton or even the current hitting coach would be better than the current mediocre coach. Her contract is up in 2028, you think Scott is renewing at 500k for this mediocrity? No chance.. then she will be at Abilene Christian and giving pitching lessons for extra money
Posted by ShockG082
Member since Sep 2021
774 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:58 pm to
The SB program is at point where if talent was even and the best coach wins, then we would lose.
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
887 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:19 pm to
Every single time…she is about 12th out of 14 in coaches ranking..her vs Gasso today might as well have been Saban vs. Jeremy Pruitt
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 8:23 pm
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4100 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:33 pm to
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The SB program is at point where if talent was even and the best coach wins, then we would lose.


You do realize that bringing in the talent is a big part of the head coach’s job, right?
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4100 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:45 pm to
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I think many assistants would do the exact same thing that they did this yr


How many schools have brought in assistants during the last 6 seasons who have 2 or more WCWS appearances? How many have 4 super regional appearances?

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I’m not dumb enough to think that the salary would stay at that level for long.


Then how would they be gaining anything then?
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
887 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 9:21 pm to
Is LSU going to the WS this year? They are more likely to lose a regional then go to WS. Maybe you need to read what I said, several assistants could do what they have done this yr..As far as the contract goes, 275k for 3 years, heavy incentives and then 2nd contract be higher if they were successful. You do realize there are several head coaches in the SEC making 275k right??
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 9:23 pm
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4100 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 9:38 pm to
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Maybe you need to read what I said, several assistants could do what they have done this yr.


Funny how you never actually provide any examples of coaches who have accomplished what you claim these assistants could do. Sure, you could throw an assistant out there with the roster that Torina put together and they might end up with a similar record. That ignores the fact that building a roster is one of the most important responsibilities of a head coach. Would they be able to sustain a competitive team over a longer period of time and build their own roster? Certainly you could point to at least a couple of coaches who have done that over the last 5-6 years, right?
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
887 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 9:56 pm to
Uh Kenny Gajewski?? You know him lol..The recruiting hasn’t been good at all, a few good players like Bergeron, Berzon, Redoutey, Edwards Heavener …Lassiter transfer, Hodge transfer, Clopton transfer, Daniel not a SEC player, Laneaux not a SEC player , this years freshmen class outside JH is terrible. Torina needs to find another job, she won’t be terminated yet but she will not be renewed absent a WS appearance
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 10:50 pm
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4100 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:07 pm to
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Uh Kenny Gajewski


He’s been at Oklahoma State for 9 years, so not exactly a recent assistant hire who has built a sustained program. You know another one who did it? Torina.

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The recruiting hasn’t been good at all, a few good players like Bergeron, Berzon, Redoutey, Edwards Heavener …Lassiter transfer, Hodge transfer, Clopton transfer, Daniel not a SEC player, Laneaux not a SEC player


So, if the players aren’t really that good, she must have put together a coaching staff that’s doing a magnificent job. Of course, that’s the exact opposite of an earlier argument you made about her not getting the most out of this roster. You really can’t have it both ways.

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The 2026 class has the potential to be elite and according to interviews by players Neal was the lead recruiter.


Who hired Neal?
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 10:20 pm
Posted by TigerByAssociation1
Member since Sep 2024
92 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:12 pm to
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U still waiting on jones to play because she was the greatest travel player since Chamberlain?? That kid will NEVER play at LSU along with Calvez, Phillips or Harris..


Why do people entertain this dumbass ghost writer?? Beats me. I was that dummy once. Looks like others falling for it. Ignore ignorance and try to make the forum productive and reasonable discussions.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
887 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:15 pm to
I said in previous post she deserves credit for hiring him.. Gajewski has been to 4 straight ws, I would say that’s sustained success to this point, Torina is on a downward slide gradually. Torina is a great person by all accounts , a good family person unfortunately in the SEC it’s wins and losses and that’s it
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 11:15 pm
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
887 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:16 pm to
Jones still better than Daniel?? Just because you don’t agree doesn’t mean I’m not entitled to my opinion. The problem with you is you want everyone to conform to your thoughts and opinions and if they disagree they are ignorant. It’s a message board for thoughts and opinions right. Ghost writer for who?
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 10:20 pm
Posted by TigerByAssociation1
Member since Sep 2024
92 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:19 pm to
Ouch..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
887 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:22 pm to
Having a good day Mr Jones? Ghost writer for who Mr. Jones?
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 10:23 pm
Posted by TigerByAssociation1
Member since Sep 2024
92 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:24 pm to
MikeTheTiger: Save your breath brother. Talking to a complete idiot with a vendetta against a coach that he insists is a terrible coach no matter what she does. And changes his idiotic views like the weather.......
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
887 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:26 pm to
Some ppl can engage and be ok with it…You were proven wrong on all accounts on players , I was proven correct, who is the fool lol Vendetta ? No vendetta just expectations..some ppl just like losing
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 10:28 pm
Posted by TigerByAssociation1
Member since Sep 2024
92 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:27 pm to
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Having a good day Mr Jones? Ghost writer for who Mr. Jones?


OMG, you outted me!!!!

Clearly no IQ test required to write on the forum.
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
887 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:28 pm to
You right I’m not an attorney or doctor..just run a business..the funny thing I bet you have spent money at this business… thank you !!!
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 10:30 pm
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4100 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:34 pm to
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Gajewski has been to 4 straight ws, I would say that’s sustained success to this point


I wasn’t disputing that he had built a sustained program. He’s just not an example of recent successful hires of assistant coaches. Certainly if hiring an assistant were a foolproof plan for success, some assistant hired since 2016 should have built a solid program by now.
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