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re: LSU SOFTBALL at a pivotal point..
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:08 pm to saintsfan22
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:08 pm to saintsfan22
"Fallout" could come after those comments that mmade it seem like Pleasants was to blame for that play at second base.
I hope this is not a case of a bad reporter getting his quotes or facts mixed up. I am shocked if, indeed, this is how the interview went.
I hope this is not a case of a bad reporter getting his quotes or facts mixed up. I am shocked if, indeed, this is how the interview went.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 5:30 pm
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:12 pm to LSUJockStrap
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Conversely, FSU played 5 kids who didn't win a national championship in 2018 and we played 5 who were very experienced players who have played against FSU now 3 times. What is she trying to say?
She has lost me. I am ready for a total change of this staff
Yep, and at whose feet does that comment really fall?, Hers. She’s had ample time to recruit and win a natty and hasn’t.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:12 pm to LSUJockStrap
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I am saying these are the first 2 that will portal. You think there won't be any others? Not sure what the number needs to be to = fallout. I agree with you that there are crazy posters.....the ones that have a different opinion from yours I guess
Saintsfan22 said it well, “fallout”, implies that something really bad happened during the year to cause a good amount of players (not bench players) to enter the portal. Having players that did not play and will not play in the future enter the portal is actually a good thing for the team, in my opinion. Roster size was way too high and needs to be trimmed down. Now, if three or more players who actually contributed to the team last year, or maybe two starters leave, then we can maybe start thinking of it as a, “fallout”.
It’s not about someone not agreeing with me, it’s about wording I guess. Sorry, but “fallout” was not a good word...LOL. I guess that would be my opinion though as well...so I will just be quiet about it I guess, I don’t know.
Anyway, losing Abrams and Jones will have no impact on the team in the future.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:25 pm to Bhs1983
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Fallout" could come after those comments that mmade it seem like Pleasants was to blame for that play at second base.
You really think what Torina said was that bad? Maybe I just have thicker skin than most but many are overreacting on it. Torina has always spoken very highly of Pleasants including in recent interviews.
Personally, I’m still thinking Pleasants leaving is BS. There are way too many people who love to hate LSU and love to hate Torina who constantly talk smack and try and raise controversy. One guy on another board puts Pleasants leaving, then it just takes off. I call BS.
I bet if we went on a Tennessee board and posted that ALly Shippman was leaving it would take off as well. All I can say is look at the source. Thinking about it, we could use Shippman next year for sure...maybe I will do it.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:37 pm to Badcallagain
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You really think what Torina said was that bad? Maybe I just have thicker skin than most but many are overreacting on it. Torina has always spoken very highly of Pleasants including in recent interviews.
I am personally not mad about what Torina said about Pleasants, I don't think it was that bad truthfully even though Tidwell wasn't at the base to throw it to. Torina clearly adores Pleasants.
I'm more mad at the other comment about not winning because FSU was more experienced. Never mind all those players from FSU massively declined since their assistant coach left for A&M. Lets own up for why we fell short instead of just saying its not fair that FSU had more experience. Personally thats just an excuse.
LSU is averaging 1.5 runs per game in their last two super regionals (4 games). There is your answer. The 2019 team had a team with 5 seniors starters.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:39 pm to Bhs1983
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To be fair, back then, and all the way up till this season, Anbdrews was a one-dimensainla batter... hit onlt to the third base side of the field...even with a force to third..
Not really. Let’s look into that statement. In 2019, Andrew’s hit 358 had ONE extra base hit. ONE! In my opinion, she is now what she has always been. What she does is turn singles into doubles by swiping bags and converts that into runs. She only had about 20 extra base hits in 4.35 seasons. Statistically that is awful. Yet, by 2019, the talking points had changed and she was acknowledged as a very good hitter, which she is.
Andrews is a fantastic player. I know you know this but I was pointing out how this board often treats really talented players. I said in the fall of 2016 she should have been a starter on day 1 and it wasn’t close. She eventually got her shot and proved to be the real deal.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:50 pm to LSUAshlyn
good post.. i will say this..there were times when I really thought Beth should let someone pinch hit for her.. but there wasn't really anybody there that had better than a 25 percent chance of driving in a run from second.
It just drove me crazy when they were runners on first and second and she'd hit the ball to third base ..
It just drove me crazy when they were runners on first and second and she'd hit the ball to third base ..
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:54 pm to Badcallagain
If you really want to find out is Pleasants is leaving, or thinking about it... find out the reasons WHY... that should tell you if it is true. She has played just about every play since she has been here... she has always batted at the top of the order.. I just dont see why she'd want to leave. and, like the others say, Beth has never said anything bad about her. If Beth is chalking that play up to lack of experience, it wont work. These kids have played ball since they were runts, and many of them have played year around.
Thats why 357 is calling out the idea of lack of experience..its just a pathetic excuse.
Thats why 357 is calling out the idea of lack of experience..its just a pathetic excuse.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 6:22 pm to Bhs1983
Just saw that Mike Candrea has more WS appearances than any other active coach or something like that. I wonder if he wants to come "home" one day. Think he can see talent?
Posted on 6/3/21 at 7:04 pm to LSUJockStrap
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Just saw that Mike Candrea has more WS appearances than any other active coach or something like that. I wonder if he wants to come "home" one day. Think he can see talent?
1. Wants to fire Torina for underachieving and wants Candrea who's been flopping with as much talent as anybody for the last decade.
2. He has 23 WCWS appearances, this is the 2nd in the last decade.
3. He's spent 58 of his 65 years in Arizona
Posted on 6/3/21 at 7:54 pm to saintsfan22
Why does Beth prefer those CPM type players? Looks like Ala is having great success with those non-slapper type players
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:24 pm to Neilfish
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Looks like Ala is having great success with those non-slapper type players
You should watch Alabama more. They play small ball and run as well as anybody in the country. Difference is, in my opinion, is they have the bats around the speed game to drive in those base runners and absolutely dominant pitching to close games out with 2 or 3 runs. Announcers just mentioned they have fewest HRs in World Series.
Murphy said in an interview last week one of his top priorities in recruiting is left handed hitters that can run and pressure defenses.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:40 pm to LSUAshlyn
Two slappers... two. Not a whole lineup full of them. They dont move a base runner two bases on a hit.
Tbey also drop off production wise against better teams.
I watched alabama and guess what happened....Brown was coming up to bat and Murphy pulled her and put a swing away hitter in to try and drive in the runner on 2nd base. I can live with two slappers in the lineup.
Tbey also drop off production wise against better teams.
I watched alabama and guess what happened....Brown was coming up to bat and Murphy pulled her and put a swing away hitter in to try and drive in the runner on 2nd base. I can live with two slappers in the lineup.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:02 pm to saintsfan22
Gotta give you that one. He can’t beat Bama either Plus this is his last season
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:08 pm to Bhs1983
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I can live with two slappers in the lineup.
Andrews and Briggs were the only slappers that were regulars in LSU's lineup.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:10 pm to Bhs1983
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Two slappers... two. Not a whole lineup full of them. They dont move a base runner two bases on a hit.
I think our disconnect in opinion is the definition of slappers. Touch and go is one style and that fits Brown at Bama and even Andrew’s for the most part. You’ll see plenty of slappers who can power slap and hit 10 doubles and 5 or 6 triples a year. Slapping is not limited to touch and go or bunting every time but by taking what the defense allows. It’s a weapon when you are not one dimensional. I agree touchers and bunters are limited in some ways but that does not describe a true slapper with a full bag of tools.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:20 pm to saintsfan22
I know man what i am talking about is most of rhe ledthanders we havw are slappers.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:23 pm to LSUAshlyn
Briggs and Andrews were always on base and had the best BA of all the players. Briggs is a bit more versatile than Andrews as she can and will swing away, although we saw her mostly slap at the end of the season.
The issue is the swing away hitters (the rest of the lineup minus Coffey sometimes) have struggled significantly getting hits and driving them in.
Having a couple of slappers in the lineup is far from the issue. Slappers job are literally to get on base and to cause havoc on the base path. Its up to everyone else to drive them in.
The issue is the swing away hitters (the rest of the lineup minus Coffey sometimes) have struggled significantly getting hits and driving them in.
Having a couple of slappers in the lineup is far from the issue. Slappers job are literally to get on base and to cause havoc on the base path. Its up to everyone else to drive them in.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:26 pm to LSUAshlyn
I understand what you are saying. Nicole Mendes is what you described As a true slapper and she can swing away. Andrews was not that way jn her first two years. She is now.
Briggs can swing away and can slap.
Many never transform from touch and go to the full range. Griggs in her last year made the transirion
Briggs can swing away and can slap.
Many never transform from touch and go to the full range. Griggs in her last year made the transirion
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:27 pm to LSUAshlyn
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I agree touchers and bunters are limited in some ways but that does not describe a true slapper with a full bag of tools.
Bailey Landry fit that all around mold. I could argue Savannah Stewart as well is another one although she has struggled a bit, but she is a power slapper. She was so dangerous as a freshmen because of her ability to hit balls into the gaps as well as lay down the bunt.
Andrews developed a lot over the last year and a half adding more power to "drive the ball" into the gaps and OF. Most of her time here she was more a touch and go slapper but she definitely worked on that part of her game as the better teams are able to adjust.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 9:28 pm
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