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re: LSU signee Zack Von Rosenberg

Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:35 pm to
Posted by Cuz413
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:35 pm to
His fastball is typically around 88-89. Has been known to hit as high as 93. He has the ability to throw an 89 mph fastball, then with the same delivery toss a 78 mph change up. Very accurate in his pitches.

What makes him attractive to the scouts is his desire to be in control of the game And how he stays cool under pressure.

Believe it or not the scouts want to see more than anything how a player reacts to pressure and or disappointment. (ex. how a pitcher gets out of a bases loaded situation, how a player reacts after a strike out or error on the field.

Only time will tell if he comes to LSU.

Either way, he'll represent the state well.
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:39 pm to
Does he look good enough to be able to start next year?

Plus what about this Colvin guy?
This post was edited on 5/10/09 at 8:41 pm
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:40 pm to
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Very accurate in his pitches.
Thats what makes him such a hot prospect.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:40 pm to
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Believe it or not the scouts want to see more than anything how a player reacts to pressure and or disappointment.


not really, they want to see how hard you can throw mostly. Or how potentially you could fill out your frame. Projectibility and potential.


its hard to judge a kids make up based on pitching in HS, which is why so many pitchers bust.


you dont see many HS kids come out of HS throwing 88 go in the 1st round. Now I could be wrong, but we'll see. This is just my gut and going off of what Ive seen following HS baseball.


NOw i didnt know he was 6'5", so that is definitely something going for him. If he is hitting 88-89 consistently, then good coaching can improve that by 2-3 MPH rather quickly in the minors. If a team sees that, he very well could slip into the 1st.


i hope he comes to LSU though.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:40 pm to
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Does he look good enough to be able to start next year?
Definitly!


He will take Colemans place in a heartbeat.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:48 pm to
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I suppose it depends on the round he is drafted in, how much $$$ he'd have to pass up and how much does he want to have the college baseball experience.


thanks for that breakdown
Posted by Bmoney101
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:49 pm to
Since our baseball season is over, I will head to s'port thurs, fri to see Zachary ans Sam Houston play. I have seen both teams play a few times this year and its goin to be a good one (assuming they both make it to the championship game).
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:52 pm to
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I think we're going to see him on campus next year.


+1

He will be a Tiger......
Posted by Charles Bronson
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:55 pm to
I don't know much about this guy, but from what I know it seems like his upside isn't as high as most guys that go in the top rounds of the MLB draft.

If I recall, he was Barbe's ace his freshman year, and led them to a state championship. I don't think he's throwing much harder now than he did then. The best attribute he has going for him is his control, which is something scouts care less about compared to velocity (it's easier to be more accurate than it is to throw harder).

Just my two cent.
This post was edited on 5/10/09 at 9:01 pm
Posted by Bmoney101
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:57 pm to
Actually he was the #2 guy on barbe's team his freshman year. Todd Fontenot was there ace and had pitched the semi-final game. Sulphur had roughed him up earlier that season I believe.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:58 pm to
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Believe it or not the scouts want to see more than anything how a player reacts to pressure and or disappointment.




not really, they want to see how hard you can throw mostly. Or how potentially you could fill out your frame. Projectibility and potential.


I've had scouts tell me what we both said.

They know before hand when they are going to the game this kid can throw 95 mph, hit home runs, is a defensive wall at X position, etc. They must see it to validate film, and conversations with coaches, etc.

They also want to know if this kid is not geting calls (in his opinion) from the umpire, does it frustrate him? Does he show those eomtions? How does he react to striking out with the bases loaded? What do they do if they make a fielding error. They want to see those things as well to get an idea if the kid can handle it mentally.

Posted by RL6680
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 9:02 pm to
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He throws in the 90's


Against Breaux Bridge, he topped out at 89. Was mainly 86-87.

Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 9:03 pm to
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They want to see those things as well to get an idea if the kid can handle it mentally.


yah, definitely


but not "more than anything".


theres not going out there to see if a kid that throws 81 MPH has poise on the mound.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 9:03 pm to
Is Todd still playing for McNeese?
Posted by Bmoney101
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2006
150 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 9:25 pm to
Yea, he is a junior this year.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 11:56 pm to
Nothing that most don't already know about the ZVR/Pro Scout situation..

But, I'm good friends with someone close to the Zachary programs. He said ZVR and his family are huge LSU fans, and he really wants to be a Tiger. Said quite a few scouts were all there again yesterday with their radar guns. He isn't sure where ZVR falls on the scouts rank/file on the draft charts, nor what the money window to be offered him. It seems that there a few teams that are drooling over him.

Let's hope as with Chad Jones, that LSU can hold off MLB, but I have a bad feeling.

Seeming can't miss kid..with crafty skills along with power.
This post was edited on 5/10/09 at 11:58 pm
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 11:56 pm to
I just have a hard time believing a team will take a risk picking Von Rosenberg after the first couple of rounds. Mainieri is going to put the full court press on him as he did with Ranaudo and tell him he'll be the friday night starter in a couple of years.

If I had to rate these players like football Von Rosenberg, Colvin, and Heathcott would all be 5 stars. I'm just glad to have them committed, if they make it to campus it's a huge bonus, if not I wish them the best of luck.
This post was edited on 5/10/09 at 11:58 pm
Posted by KCBasketball
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/11/09 at 12:17 am to
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but not "more than anything".


The more than anything part is their ability to change speeds to keep the batter off balance while hitting their spot as well as not changing a thing in their delivery to tip off the batter. A person who can throw 90 and who can also throw a 78mph change(if thats true to what the guy above said) would be a very high priority.

The only thing though is you need at least 3 great pitches to be a starter in the MLB. Does he have a great slider or curve?
This post was edited on 5/11/09 at 12:20 am
Posted by tigerbru17
Billy in 4C
Member since Jan 2009
10242 posts
Posted on 5/11/09 at 12:18 am to
I have been out of the loop with the whole baseball recruiting...can anyone fill me in on some big names we have picked up that we are hoping do not go pro.
Obviously after reading this I know about ZVR and im familiar with the Northshore pitcher for 2011..other then those two who do we have committed
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/11/09 at 12:44 am to
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A person who can throw 90 and who can also throw a 78mph change(if thats true to what the guy above said) would be a very high priority.


well we are talking 1st round potential here


and that isnt really 1st round stuff if scouts do not think they can add some MPH on his fastball based on his large frame.

Esp as a RHP. Thats not really standout stuff.


there have been a lot of good pitchers come through LA HS in the last 10 years just as good, if not better than this kid who havent sniffed the 1st round out of HS.

I say it all the time, people just do not realize how hard it is to be a 1st round pick. They see a talented kid come through their hometown once every 5 years or so and they automatically think he is a 1st round pick. Mainly because that is all they know and see
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