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re: LSU should play Boise St. in 2011
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:01 am to KingwoodLsuFan
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:01 am to KingwoodLsuFan
I think ya'll are looking at it wrongly.
We are a better team than Boise State. Yesterday, today and tomorrow. Moreover, they would be playing in the heat of the Louisiana summer against us in Tiger Stadium. They have very little realistic shot at winning the game.
However, they are a decent team. Their only realistic shot at winning is if LSU overlooks them. This, then, would force LSU to prepare more stringently during the summer and two-a-days.
Plus, it would be a far more entertaining game to watch than Arkansas State or MTSU or whatever.
AND it is what college football needs.
There is much to be gained. National exposure on the first game of the season. Intensity in summer practices. Quality competition.
We are a better team than Boise State. Yesterday, today and tomorrow. Moreover, they would be playing in the heat of the Louisiana summer against us in Tiger Stadium. They have very little realistic shot at winning the game.
However, they are a decent team. Their only realistic shot at winning is if LSU overlooks them. This, then, would force LSU to prepare more stringently during the summer and two-a-days.
Plus, it would be a far more entertaining game to watch than Arkansas State or MTSU or whatever.
AND it is what college football needs.
There is much to be gained. National exposure on the first game of the season. Intensity in summer practices. Quality competition.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:03 am to Ktulu7
If you want to be big in college football you need a decent sized stadium a good fan base and be in a respectable conference. If your team doesnt fit in those categories you will not get national respect.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:04 am to Tiger Phil
I say not be a bunch of twats like everyone else in our shoes, and invite them to Death Valley, stomp them, and then move on.
Since when is competition a bad thing? A bunch of tight wads that are afraid to lose is not what LSU is about.
Since when is competition a bad thing? A bunch of tight wads that are afraid to lose is not what LSU is about.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:04 am to Ktulu7
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Yeah, let's see LSU back up the BCS talk and take on the Broncos.
Uh, when have we not? Les hasn't lost to an OOC opponent and did you see the last 5 bowl games against "BCS opponents"? I know that Granola Bar Bowl or whatever win vs. Northern Illinois has you all pumped - even with a 3 win season - but we have backed up our talk with BCS opponents. You have a win over Miss State (last year) to hang your hat on and just because Boise beats you every year, doesn't mean we have to play the role of Lancelot and back up our Queen and challenge Boise in the name of Tech.
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I think they're underrated and can whip quite a few "big-boy" teams
Yes, they can and they're not "underrated" anymore...if anything they are overrated. Look what Auburn did to y'all and look what they could do to a very injury-plagued Tech team. They thought they were Bad News Brown until they finally went somehwere worth a damn in Athens, GA a few years back (with one of their better teams and Zanbrasky) and got WAXED.
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Hell, I'd REALLY like to see LSU get some balls about them and play IN Boise and try to win that one! Insane crowd, crazy blue field, very high elevation, cold climate... TALK about a ridiculous home field advantage they have!
We don't have to do that...this is a business. The same business that doesn't want nearby Tech in the Indy Bowl as opposed to an SEC school because of how much money its fans will spend at hotels, restuarants, casinos, etc. Tech would "pack up" that morning and go home that night and spend an average of 30 bucks in Shreveport. The same is applied for away games. True, we'd travel well, but so would they and well...we have about 30,000 more seats than them...and well, we're a REAL top dog. They have one BCS win. And yes, they play in a rinky dink conference.
Sorry, just gotta put a Tech fan in his place sometimes.
This post was edited on 11/11/09 at 10:06 am
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:05 am to thunderbird1100
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Frenso has never been a top mid-major. They just talk a lot of shite about playing "anyone, anywhere" only to lose and fail in conference every year.
truth
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:10 am to Ktulu7
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Yeah, let's see LSU back up the BCS talk and take on the Broncos.
We "back up" the BCS talk by taking on, Alabama, Florida, Tenn, Ole Miss,Arkansas, Auburn, and West Virginia. We do not need to prove anything to anyone. All the proving is needed by Boise. And scheduling a potential Top 15 team would be just dumb. No reward for beating them at all.
quote:you have won THREE.
(when we're not terrible like this season).
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I think they're underrated and can whip quite a few "big-boy" teams
How can you think they are underrated, they are in the Top 10. Hell if all they can do is whip a "FEW" big boy teams they are vastly overrated.
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Hell, I'd REALLY like to see LSU get some balls about them
We scheduled Tech.....isnt that what you all wanted? Now you are pimping the Broncos
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:11 am to Tiger Phil
quote:that's not what i read. i saw they wanted home and home
They are willing to play anyone from a BCS League without requiring a game back in Boise.
Boise State is looking for home-and-home games, which would mean a team traveling to the blue turf, a place the Broncos are 59-2 this decade. The Broncos would also be open to a guarantee game, but the school is asking for $900,000 to $1 million to play.
lsu playing in boise is a terrible idea. what's the point? second, why pay $1m to play a team capable of hanging with anybody on a one game basis? the sec is tough enough as it is. the deal they're trying to get is horrible for lsu
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:13 am to Ktulu7
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This is what's wrong with college football. All it does is keep the money in the same hands, and prevents us from seeing really interesting matchups. It's boring to see the same SEC teams play each other every year. It's ironic everyone will bitch that Boise doesn't play anybody, when these so-called "big teams" won't often play them as it is. Take a look at Alabama and how they have NO urge to play Tech at all. We have a winning record over them and slapped them twice in a row last time, so they have this weak "nothing to gain" attitude toward us. We need a playoff, because this BCS bullshite is ruining college football. With a playoff, LSU wouldn't be scared to play Boise.
I can't agree with much of anything you wrote.
College football has more equality and profits available to more teams now than they have had in the past. Granted the SEC is doing better than any other conference on a bottom line - but with more television, scholarship limits, and BCS profit sharing (including conditions to let in midmajors that would have NEVER been able to get a bid to a bowl like the Rose, Sugar, Fiesta, or Orange before)... things are much better for the little guy now than they have been
I really don't see why people claim the BCS is ruining college football... all the BCS does is make sure two of the top teams will play in a championship game (instead of potentially having the top two-three teams all in different bowl games).
The idea that a playoff would fix this is fairly hard to agree with anyway... if the playoff were based on mostly major conference champs and say two at large teams then it reduces some of the reward for playing a premier ooc opponent IMO (whereas in some years playing a really good ooc opponent can benefit a championship team very much - e.g. OU - 04, USC - 04, Texas - 05, LSU - 07).
And if the playoff were based on pure rankings like it is now you still have the same behavior where if anything teams probably have even less incentive to take any risks out of conference if they are in a decent conference (although they would probably want 1-2 quality ooc games if they were from a midmajor or big east) - because as boise showed this year with one quality showing you can get into the discussion for a major bowl bid
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:14 am to mannybeingmanny
I wish they would go ahead and make me grand commissioner of NCAA football. Not only could I use the extra income (I'd only ask for $150,000 per year, plus travel expenses and a company car) but I would do the following -
1. Create a mandatory scheduling practice whereby BCS teams and teams from non-AQ conferences must submit one date per year that is scheduled from my office. I would match teams from similar places in their conference against each other. (A team from the top 1/4 of the SEC would play a team from the top 1/4 of the Big Ten or Pac Ten, for example).
2. Institute a four-team playoff - the Plus One Model.
This would make the best sport even better.
I'll be waiting.
1. Create a mandatory scheduling practice whereby BCS teams and teams from non-AQ conferences must submit one date per year that is scheduled from my office. I would match teams from similar places in their conference against each other. (A team from the top 1/4 of the SEC would play a team from the top 1/4 of the Big Ten or Pac Ten, for example).
2. Institute a four-team playoff - the Plus One Model.
This would make the best sport even better.
I'll be waiting.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:15 am to Ktulu7
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All it does is keep the money in the same hands, and prevents us from seeing really interesting matchups.
You and I both know college football is changing in that regard. Look at all of the odd OOC matchups (UGA traveling out of the south last year to play ASU; Ohio State and USC/TX, etc.) and tell me we're not doing a better job since the BCS's birth.
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It's boring to see the same SEC teams play each other every year
Yeah, it's a treat to watch WAC schools play each other in front of 20,000 fans instead, isn't it? Love that Nevada/Idaho game!
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It's ironic everyone will bitch that Boise doesn't play anybody, when these so-called "big teams" won't often play them as it is
Again, nothing personal...strictly business. And Georgis played them, as I said. Tell Boise to join the Pac 10 and bild an 80,000 seat stadium and we'll talk. It's not like they don't have finances. Hell, their basketball arena consistently hosts an NCAA basketball regional year after year.
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Take a look at Alabama and how they have NO urge to play Tech at all
PLEASE! You beat them in '97...when they were as bad as they've been in 20 years. They will schedule you again for HC in a few years. ANd you can add on to that "winnng record".
[quote]We need a playoff, because this BCS bullshite is ruining college football. With a playoff, LSU wouldn't be scared to play Boise.[quote]
In the eyes of the meek, perhaps so. Is Boise playing in the title game speaking on behalf of you or something? By the way, they can go undefeated and they won't be in the title game. TCU will get in before them (SOS and appeal). If Boise wants respect, go on the road and play someone OOC besides PAc 10 teams.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:16 am to bfniii
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that's not what i read. i saw they wanted home and home
There's been a discussion about this on a bunch of message boards lately... apparently boise is willing to do a road game with no return against a major opponent
they have seen the value of a single major win (like oregon this year) and are willing to gamble since they have little to lose IMO
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:16 am to Ktulu7
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With a playoff, LSU wouldn't be scared to play Boise.
So you admit that a playoff yields more meaningless games.
The repercussions of a loss make the BCS the best and make the ENTIRE year fun.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:18 am to PiscesTiger
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In the eyes of the meek, perhaps so. Is Boise playing in the title game speaking on behalf of you or something? By the way, they can go undefeated and they won't be in the title game. TCU will get in before them (SOS and appeal). If Boise wants respect, go on the road and play someone OOC besides PAc 10 teams.
Therein lies the trouble. Nobody wants to schedule Boise... Even at home. I am saying that LSU should buck this trend. So we have to pay them $1 million for a guarantee game. That game will be on TV, as opposed to a game against Middle Tennessee that will be unseen to the nation.
And once again, college football needs more games among contending teams from different conferences. That is what makes determining who the best teams are so difficult each year!
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:19 am to molsusports
Boise is saying that but they were just about to get a game with Texas aTm and tried to throw in the home and home at the end of the discussion. When they threw that in the aTm ended talking to them.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:20 am to bfniii
I'm just waving the non-BCS flag. This ain't about Tech specifically, and no actually we didn't want to have LSU on the schedule so soon. We're still early in the process of trying to repair the damage to our athletic department done by the previous AD and HC in football. This is massive rebuilding time and now with a terribly injured team, we get to interrupt our conference schedule to go frick up some of our recruiting efforts in Baton Rouge and possibly injure even more players before we go to Fresno. I'd rather not deal with LSU on my schedule for at least another 3, 4, or 5 years to be honest.
Also, anyone who doesn't want to play a Boise State isn't necessarily just being a wuss, because it's how our retarded system is set up. College football is becoming nothing but a popularity contest and it makes it about as interesting sometimes as watching a reality show where some girls bitch at each other or something. WE NEED PLAYOFFS!!! THERE'S NO VALID EXCUSE NOT TO HAVE THEM!!!
Also, anyone who doesn't want to play a Boise State isn't necessarily just being a wuss, because it's how our retarded system is set up. College football is becoming nothing but a popularity contest and it makes it about as interesting sometimes as watching a reality show where some girls bitch at each other or something. WE NEED PLAYOFFS!!! THERE'S NO VALID EXCUSE NOT TO HAVE THEM!!!
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:21 am to Tiger Phil
I'd play Boise. I'd much rather play them than Middle Tenn State or another Sunbelt school. I will play them here. Again, it makes no financial sense to play them on the road. Nature of the beast. But yeah, I will play them here. Bring 'em on.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:21 am to KingwoodLsuFan
That's interesting and contradicts all the message board chatter (and an article from earlier this week that talked about espn trying to help boise find a ooc opponent for a road game in 2011)
where did you hear that about A&M and Boise?
where did you hear that about A&M and Boise?
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:23 am to molsusports
What's Verge's email? I will gladly send him a letter politely encouraging him to consider that game.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:23 am to Ktulu7
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WE NEED PLAYOFFS!!! THERE'S NO VALID EXCUSE NOT TO HAVE THEM!!!
Unless you think the playoffs being proposed are worse than the current system
I have no problem with a four team playoff... most of the other proposals lead to a lot of less meaningful games during the year
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:23 am to Ktulu7
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Ktulu7
I heard your play-by-play guy Dave Nitz on the radio last night. He said Dooley has major plans to do some big time rennovations to the stadium (sky boxes, more seats, weight room, etc.). Nitz said that this process would take 3-4 years and that Dooley is "really engaged in the process of making this happen."
My question to you...Dooley gonna even be around Ruston in three years? Give me your honest answer on that.
This post was edited on 11/11/09 at 10:24 am
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