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re: LSU OL stats showed great run-blocking and efficent run-game
Posted on 1/6/23 at 2:30 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 1/6/23 at 2:30 pm to Ace Midnight
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There are no teams in the upper right (the good) quadrant of that chart that face the run defenses we face, either. Closest looks to be Tennessee.
The chart was just for the bowl game.
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 2:56 pm to Mayhawman
Lot check downs and 5-7 yard comebacks help that completion % but it’s not that he can’t throw downfield. It’s that he won’t throw it downfield. I’m ok w a pick here and there because our WR’s are going to make plays on balls more often that not.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 3:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
His release is slow. Go back and watch the difference between Nuss and JD. Nuss flicks his wrist and it’s out. I haven’t read any scouting reports on either of the QB’s.
Nuss’s problem is he thinks he can fit the ball into any coverage he sees. That’s a maturity issue that should get better with more PT next year.
Nuss’s problem is he thinks he can fit the ball into any coverage he sees. That’s a maturity issue that should get better with more PT next year.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 3:08 pm to MikeTheTiger71
Ah, disregard then.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 3:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Jordan jefferson in 2009 threw as many tds as Daniels did.
Reminds me of the old JJ to MF comparisons
Note the YPA being bitched about every thread.
Passing
Player G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
Matt Flynn 12 202 359 56.3 2407 6.7 6.5 21 11 125.8
Jordan Jefferson 12 182 296 61.5 2166 7.3 7.4 17 7 137.2
Jayden Daniels 14 266 388 68.6 2913 7.5 8.0 17 3 144.5
Posted on 1/6/23 at 4:01 pm to Bring Da Wood
quote:I agree with this and think he values possession a lot (maybe he or staff got spooked by 2021 INTs).
it’s not that he can’t throw downfield. It’s that he won’t throw it downfield.
Hoping work and more familiarity with WRs will improve it for next season.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 4:35 pm to Mayhawman
quote:I don't think it was 'being spooked', but I do suspect Kelly is putting a very high priority on lack of turnovers.quote:
it’s not that he can’t throw downfield. It’s that he won’t throw it downfield.
I agree with this and think he values possession a lot (maybe he or staff got spooked by 2021 INTs).
Hoping work and more familiarity with WRs will improve it for next season.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 5:53 pm to Geaux Piggins Geaux
That’s because we now have a coach that understands the importance of recruiting the right kind of linemen
Posted on 1/6/23 at 6:46 pm to Scoob
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don't think it was 'being spooked', but I do suspect Kelly is putting a very high priority on lack of turnovers.
Kelly screaming from the sidelines,"it's 1 on 1 throw the fricking ball" kind of throws a wrench in that logic.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 7:03 pm to Bring Da Wood
quote:
His release is slow.
No its not. The only thing ,throwing the ball wise , that could keep JD from the league is accuracy... but I think that can be cleaned up with working on footwork(making sure he tries to stay on platform).
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Go back and watch the difference between Nuss and JD. Nuss flicks his wrist and it’s out.
Well if your stance is JD has a slower release than Nuss,whom has a very compact delivery, then I agree.
But if you're saying he just has a straight up slow release... youre wrong and people that get paid to scout qbs agree with me.
But youre free to your opinion brother... enjoyed the discussion.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 11:13 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:quote:
don't think it was 'being spooked', but I do suspect Kelly is putting a very high priority on lack of turnovers.
Kelly screaming from the sidelines,"it's 1 on 1 throw the fricking ball" kind of throws a wrench in that logic.
I mean, if you go digging, you can find a million things wrong with Daniels... and yet Kelly has named him the starter and has stuck by it. He might be saying "throw it more", but he didn't yank him this season, and said he's the starter and no controversy going forward. He must be doing SOMETHING Kelly likes and wants. The low turnover number is simply one of the most obvious things to consider.
I guess another clear reason to consider is his mobility, the fact that a busted play can result in a scramble for a positive gain.
Kelly's not here to sabotage the program, or to intentionally piss off fans; he's here to win. He's going with Daniels, there's a reason why.
What do you think it is?
Posted on 1/7/23 at 1:32 am to Scoob
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What do you think it is?
You can think a certain player gives you the best chance to win but still have problems with an aspect of their play.
it's not like kelly publicly stated he wanted JD to be more aggressive.
Direct public qoute from Kelly....
quote:
We’re way too conservative right now,” Kelly said, via LSU Country on FanNation. “I don’t want to throw interceptions or turn the ball over. We haven’t thrown any. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but if you’re looking to be aggressive, you’re going to throw an interception because somebody made a great play. You trust that you’re going to throw it in there and we need Jayden [Daniels] to be a little more on that edge and be a little more aggressive.”
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:12 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:Ok to clarify, for those screaming "replace him with Nuss":
You can think a certain player gives you the best chance to win but still have problems with an aspect of their play.
Why does Daniels give you the best chance to win?
Myself, I think Daniels is the guy because:
1) he learned the playbook faster (Nuss may be catching up now, should at least be competent with it)
2) he gives you huge edge in mobility, able to save busted plays with his legs
3) gives you more plays you can run (QB runs)
4) most importantly, I think he's got the "IT" factor you want. He doesn't get panicked or overwhelmed. Need to go 99 yds in under 2 minutes? Ok, he did that. Need to hang in there when things are falling apart? Did that too, Miss State and Auburn, and really Ole Miss. Make plays when the whole world is staring at you? Bama game. Dude smiles like a happy puppy on the sidelines, but he's a warrior on the field.
Back to the OP remarks on the O Line, I think we're going to have one of the best O Lines in the country next year. Definitely will be a strength. Probably not to the level of UGA, but maybe better than anyone else. It will make average backs look good, and a standout RB would be great to see.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 12:24 pm to geauxtigers33
You’re making that up. I haven’t seen anyone say that Daniels hurts our running game. People say he hurts our passing game, which limits our offense. Also, the running game can be helped by both a good passer that forces defenders to defend more of the field or by having multiple running threats to draw attention. The running game has looked good with both Nuss and Daniels for different reasons.
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