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LSU OL stats showed great run-blocking and efficent run-game

Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Geaux Piggins Geaux
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:00 pm


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The top right quadrant shows teams that excelled in efficent run games and run blocking on the OL. I think those that saw Tulane run it down USC's throat in the cotton bowl can see the great results that come from pairing those two critical attributes.

I'm really glad CBK kept Brad Davis on staff to help develop our guys. If they can improve in pass-blocking; this line will be among the best in the SEC next season.
Posted by MasterAbe1
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:04 pm to
Brad Davis deserves every penny and more. What a job he has done the past two years
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:09 pm to
Jayden Daniels is the main cog in an improved running game. He had like 55 runs over 10 yards or something crazy. LSU was 9th nationally in converting 3rd downs.

The threat of Daniels made Josh Williams and others viable in the run game. Williams went from walk on scrub to fans asking when he will get drafted
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 12:27 pm
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:10 pm to
This cannot be overstated. JD's run ability is so good he takes a mediocre RB room and makes them much better due to the focus on him.

For all his flaws, he completely disguises a weakness on LSU's roster. Lots of solid contributors there but there's no dawg killer instinct RB. Imagine if they had a top shelf RB with JD. The offense would be unstoppable.

Just wait. I'll bet money if a big RB hits portal LSU jumps on them harder than anyone.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 12:13 pm
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:27 pm to
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The threat of Daniels made Josh Williams and others viable in the run game. Williams went from walk on scrub to fans asking when he will get drafted


But I was told Daniels hurts the running game and Nuss’s ability to throw the ball all over the place opens up the running game.
Posted by notbilly
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:29 pm to
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Brad Davis deserves every penny and more. What a job he has done the past two years



He's a good guy and has a good family. I hope they stay here for a long time.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:29 pm to
If they can add layers to the passing game this offseason it can be deadly. Much moreso than anything Nuss can bring
Posted by MasterAbe1
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:30 pm to
I don’t see Kelly letting him leave unless it’s for a promotion elsewhere. He seems very big on Davis
Posted by r0cky1
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:33 pm to
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But I was told Daniels hurts the running game and Nuss’s ability to throw the ball all over the place opens up the running game.


Daniel’s is our run game. We don’t have a down field attacking passing game with him
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:36 pm to
Very true. If JD had a legitimate deep ball threat, we would easily be a playoff team next year and a good chance of winning it.


Kid is athletic as hell.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:47 pm to
Nuss opens the run game up but not in the way JD can. They would still be average RBs getting the ball with no focus on the QB. They would just back off the LOS with Nuss shredding them deep so he could definitely open the running game up but not like JD is going to do it when defenses are so keyed in on his elite running ability.

Much easier to defend our RB room with Nuss in than JD. The throwing ability of JD is good enough to make defenses respect him so can't just stack a box on him. This isn't anthony jennings throwing the ball for LSU.
Posted by plance
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:49 pm to
Really good O line Coach, QB that can move, and both OT's playing lights out their first year made up for an overall average interior line and no superstar RB.

With how they're building the O line, it's gonna be fun watching LSU consistently get better and better...
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:52 pm to
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Daniel’s is our run game. We don’t have a down field attacking passing game with him


The problem is that we did some games. It's really frustrating because Daniels would have games against Bama, Ole miss, and florida(our toughest opponents besides tenn)and look like a Heisman candidate.... then we would play trash teams and he would look indecisive and confused.
If Daniels gets more consistent in the passing game then the sky is the limit for the offense next year. I'm really glad he decided to come back.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:55 pm to
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The throwing ability of JD is good enough to make defenses respect him so can't just stack a box on him


But this is exactly what arky,a&m and uga did. They sat is zone and begged JD to try to take the top off the defense and he wouldn't.
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 1:20 am
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:08 pm to
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Nuss opens the run game up but not in the way JD can.


He needs to present more of an issue for defenses with better accuracy.

He looks like a 58-60% passer. You may get some splash plays but also a lot of punting & some turnovers
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:16 pm to
You also said he doesn't run an efficient offense when you're wrong on that as stats prove otherwise.

He also played fine in Georgia game. That wasn't the reason they lost. He played on that game with 1 foot and still threw the ball effectively.

TAMU got him. That was his bad game. Arkansas as well but he was also sick in that game apparently. We'll see how he develops moving forward. Looked fine against Purdue though I know they aren't a good measure.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 1:17 pm
Posted by GoldenBoy
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:26 pm to
It’s hard to give an honest assessment of Nuss, given his most recent outings. He’s making nice throws, but the game flow isn’t what Daniels has had to face.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:27 pm to
Keep in mind this was with essentially 3.5 new starters on the OL this year (Campbell, Jones, Turner + Frazier) with 2 of those being true freshmen, Frazier a sophomore.

The Top 6 Olinemen all return for next season who played a lot this year too.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:37 pm to
If we start Nuss over Daniels this number plummets, as do the other OL metrics.

Sacks increase, rushing decreases. Id imagine 3rd down conversions decrease. TOP decreases.

Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:43 pm to
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Nuss over Daniels
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Sacks increase,


Not sure this is true. Keep in mind Daniels takes quite a few extra "sacks" trying to scramble and running into a Dlineman and losing a yard or two a lot from LOS which is a "sack". That wouldnt happen with Nuss.

I understand the argument Daniels can evade more pressure than Nuss, but Nuss could also be considered a quicker decision maker than Daniels considering he doesnt have the luxury of escaping pressure last minute like Daniels knows he can a lot of times.

We gave up a ton sacks this season with Daniels back there. PFF has us with 44 total, 42 from Daniels, 1 from Nussmeier and 1 from Howard.

Nussmeier took 84 attempts on 85 drop backs to Daniels 390 attempts on 504 drop backs yet only got sacked once to Daniels being sacked 42 times.

Nussmeier took on average 2.43 seconds to throw the ball every drop back. Daniels took on average 2.94 seconds to throw the ball every drop back.

So long story short, Nussmeier would probably be sacked a lot less than Daniels.
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 9:37 am
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