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re: LSU OC vs LSU OC - Jimbo vs E - Avg Total Offense - E's Crushin' It

Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:11 am to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:11 am to
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bullshite.

I'm very consistent.

What you're using as your comparisons are all over the place. You started out using time as OC at LSU and have gone so far as to bring Fisher's head coaching record the last 2 seasons.

As already stated, if an individual is crushing it, they shouldn't need someone else to come in to improve the passing game.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:13 am to
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Three of those came in OT against A&M.
At the end of a brutal season. After a tough regulation-time game. And then 7 exhausting overtimes that left Burrow unconcious in the locker room after the game.

Yeah, those TDs count. They weren't beach-ball tosses against the Citidel.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:13 am to
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O, E, and Burrow are all grossly under-rated by the Nega's.

Explain how O and E are underrated. And no one is underrating Burrow.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:14 am to
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What you're using as your comparisons are all over the place. You started out using time as OC at LSU and have gone so far as to bring Fisher's head coaching record the last 2 seasons.
That's your Nega opinion.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:15 am to
We had a down year in 2002 due to Marcus Randall and we were ranked 82 Nd in nation total offense but Jimbo has eexord breaking years at LSU in 2001 and 2003. He’s a fantastic qb developer. It was all laid out in OPs last thread. He sure is some butthirt. Reminds me of that jagoff the first count who bashed Canada endlessly while his BloviTing of what E would do based on 2016 blew up in his face.

Lol.
Posted by TigahinFL
Member since Oct 2016
227 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:15 am to
Coach E is crushing it except when we are ahead in the 4th. He’s too damn conservative. He really got underneath my skin when we became conservative in the bowl game knowing we have a depleted defense. Go for the damn jugular please!
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11285 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:18 am to
E “killed it” in the UGA game. Where was that play calling in the Bama, UF, TAMU games? Why couldn’t he put away Tech early? He got conservative and scared.

You’re looking at total yards. Sure, we generally moved the ball well between the 30s. What’s the deal with RZ offense? You have to finish. Why can’t he be consistent? I’m still not sold on Ensminger, and I’m definitely not going to say something as idiotic as “E is killing it.”
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 10:22 am
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:19 am to
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That's your Nega opinion.

No. You did that. The OP was about offensive production and then you brought up Fisher being 16-10 the last two years, then later changed it to 14-12.

If you're gonna consider thinking that Fisher is a better OC than E to be negative, then over 90% of college football fans are negstive.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 10:22 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:20 am to
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I think we're still missing a game changer at QB. Jimbo had that Rohan, Mauck, and Russel. Ensminger hasn't had a game changer at the position yet


How long are we going to say this before we recognize that the problem is coaching?

The stars in front of the names of all the quarterbacks that have come through LSU since 2000, hasn't changed that much.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75552 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:21 am to
GeauxHouston did a series of videos that were all the Offensive plays.

What stand out to me in the UGA game is that we had players make plays and got those big chunk yards.

CEH was amazing. Broke a like of tackles inside 10 yards that spring big plays. We had a play where Jefferson went in motion and absolutely no one on UGAs defense picked him up and of course Burrow’s big run.

Even then, we scored 36 points and kicked like 5 FGs.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 10:27 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:28 am to
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If Joe Brady truly is in charge of most of the passing game, well see a ton more of the short, quick, high-percentage passes. any far fewer of those slow-developing low-percentage plays that yield almost as many throwaways as incompletions.


Now we're talkin!



I don't think it'll happen but

Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:29 am to
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CEH was amazing. Broke a like of tackles inside 10 yards that spring big plays. We had a play where Jefferson went in motion and absolutely no one on UGAs defense picked him up and of course Burrow’s big run.

Gotta agree with all that. And CEH is made for the RPO, IMO.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75552 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:31 am to
Emery too.

Very good on zone runs.

We’ve run zone runs for a long time. Grimes and Cregg are both Zone blocking guys.

This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 10:34 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:34 am to
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Nobody would be complaining if we went 11-1 with a loss to Bama...but we continue to lose games we shouldn’t (UF, TAMU). Letting Tech and other mid majors hang around is concerning too. These issues must be addressed.


Same issues as the last head coach who got fired for it. Now I'm starting to believe that's not the reason he was fired since we essentially have the same thing again just with a little more passing involved.

Team still has a stale and anemic offense, plays down to its competition, loses games that it shouldn't, let's vastly inferior talent hang around and has the lowest offensive production of any of Alabama's opponents every year.

Somebody please tell me. What is different between Les Miles LSU and Ed Orgeron LSU? Other than, "one of us". And knowing the intense nepotism of Louisiana, "one of us" wouldn't surprise me as the only reason a change was made. That and Dick Nose Joe's insecure and compensating power play
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 10:47 am
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11285 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:35 am to
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Now I'm starting to believe that's not the reason he was fired since we essentially have the same thing again just with a little more passing involved.


Miles - not an Alleva “yes man”
Orgeron - totally an Alleva “yes man”

That’s why Miles was fired.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75552 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:35 am to
Things you have to give O credit for:

We didn’t abandon the passing game
We threw a lot more (more than Miles did going back all the way to 2008) and
Hiring Brady makes me feel like he isn’t complacent.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
82171 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:35 am to
He isn’t using yards per play either and E was not the OC in 2017.

Bwahahahahahahahahhah

Epic fail
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
82171 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:37 am to
Jimbo obviously sucks.

Only has a top 5 win % as a HC from 2010 onward.

Only put a bunch of guys in pros.

Only won nattys as a OC AND HC

BY GAWD TERRIBLE.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:37 am to
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You’re lumping a lot of people in together

For instance I’m Meh on O
Don’t think E has what it takes and
I am a big Burrow fan.

Burrow’s “inexperience” is part of a lot of pumper’s excuses.

I personally Think if we but Burrow in an offense he’s used to he would have been fine.


Exactly this.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
82171 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:39 am to
Most passing TDS in a season both under Jimbo fisher QBs. 2003 and 2006. 28 by Mauck and Jamarcus

Oh the horror lol
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