re: LSU is not a rebuild. LSU hired O to avoid a rebuild.

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Paul Chryst took over now three seasons ago. Where was his rebuild?

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2015 - 10/3
2016 - 9/3
2017 - ?

Would 3 losses be acceptable for LSU?

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the odds he has that level of coaching talent WITH the personnel we have? essentially 0

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I was at least hoping that with the money we have to offer coordinators that there was always a decent chance to land quality guys with the whole thing simply coming down to the ability to evaluate coaching talent. There is of course all sorts of reasons to question said ability because it must be noted that Aranda was a Miles hire that O was simply able to keep around. Canada and the position coaches should be the examples to assess O's ability to evaluating coaching talent.

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2015 - 10/3
2016 - 9/3
2017 - ?

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You should at least get his record right. 10-3, 11-3. No sign of a rebuild for Chryst yet. New HC and OC. Should have been 8 wins somewhere in there.

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i suppose in an ironic twist of fate, it truly is our fault for not complaining about Grimes enough

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BUT BUT BUT PFF! NUMBER 1! We return, what 4/5ths of PFF's top line (LOL) and now we don't have the depth to compete there.

Which is it ranters? Was our OL good last year or not? Either answer is a damning indictment.

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O having no real ethos or philosophy is going to doom this team. like i posted saturday night, this is likely the apext of coaching talent and on-field talent that O will have at LSU. the odds that O ever has coordinators of the level of Aranda/Canada is very low. the odds he has that level of coaching talent WITH the personnel we have? essentially 0

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BINGO

Ed O's plan is to hire the best coordinators in the country....great plan. Only problem is if they are indeed the very best coordinators in the country they will be moving on to bigger things within a few short years. When that happens guess what? New philosophy change in either Offense or Defense and maybe both at the same time= more "rebuilding" or "time needed"

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You should at least get his record right. 10-3, 11-3.

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Apologies, I am not an avid Wisconsin fan like you. All bullshite aside, for LSU with a new coach/OC would 3 years of 3 losses per season be considered acceptable in the SECW? Answer that question please.

9-3 in year 3, with no other records better than that? We fired the last coach to do better than that.

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Apologies, I am not an avid Wisconsin fan like you. All bullshite aside, for LSU with a new coach/OC would 3 years of 3 losses per season be considered acceptable in the SECW? Answer that question please.

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The expectations from many posting in this thread is 8 or 9 wins. Paul's results in both of his full seasons exceed that paltry sum. Also, he's at Wisconsin. He's like Barry Alvarez reincarnate with those results.

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For 5 fricking years all we've heard is that Miles was a buffoon and that any idiot could do what he has done and the only thing stopping LSU from competing for championships was him.

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This team wouldn't have looked much better had Miles not been fired. O is terrible, but so was Miles. Stop defending him. He put the holes in the boat. Ed O is just going to sit his fat arse in it and help it sink.

While true, and while agreeing that the whole premise that we will always be able to hire top flight coordinators is pie in the sky, the condition of our o-line was going to be an issue for ANY coach this year. That falls back on the previous staff for years of defunct OL recruitment and management. Similar can be said for our current WR situation. We are set up with good freshman QB's so time will tell with that position.

I do think there's a lot of overreaction going on in pinning this loss entirely on O and using it as an extrapolation on his ability to manage a winning program going forward.