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re: LSU is not a rebuild. LSU hired O to avoid a rebuild.

Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30472 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:56 pm to
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I'm afraid that even Saban wouldn't be able to do much if you dropped in here. If you say no way, I'd remind of how bad our D was when Hookfin was the best corner he had on the right side.

And I would remind you he still somehow won the SEC championship.
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We didn't even have enough DL to substitute in the 2nd half last week.

Maybe we shouldn't have left one sitting in Baton Rouge then.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:12 pm to
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Did you miss the fact that MSU got 6 yards on average every time they ran it? To ignore that and blame an intangible shows me you are either totally ignorant of the game or, more likely, are being intellectually dishonest.


its like you didnt even read my post before spouting off ignorance....


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so the entire team playing like shite,,not being focused,and having a huge amount of penalties ISNT 



whether you like it or not the loss is on the head coach just like he would get credit for the win. the mental gymnastics needed to remove blame from the head coach is amazing.




and i know more football than anyone youve ever shook hands with but by all means keep thinking head coach isnt to blame for that shite show. youre showing your football ignorance.

This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:16 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:14 pm to
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Its the Jimmies and Joes. Based on last week, we lack talent in the trenches to match up against a quality SEC team. I'm afraid that even Saban wouldn't be able to do much if you dropped in here. If you say no way, I'd remind of how bad our D was when Hookfin was the best corner he had on the right side. You have to have the players. We didn't even have enough DL to substitute in the 2nd half last week. 



my how the narrative has switched in just 11 months.

miles was fired for underachieving with all this talent and just 11 months later we are so depleted of talent that even Saban couldnt win here.


fricking laughable
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:20 pm to
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Right - did LSU have an elite tackle in 2015 and 2016? No. 


do you know how rare it is to have an elite tackle in cfb?
85% of the tackles in cfb move to guard once they get to the nfl.


no one paid to evaluate oline play thinks our oline play in 2014 and 2015 wasnt one of the best in cfb.

i think ill take the opinions of people that actual spend time watching the all 22 film over a message board poster watching a tv broadcast.

could those lines have been better in pasa protection, yes ,but there isnt a single oline in cfb to is great at rb and pass protection.


you dont lead the country in yards before contact by having a crap oline.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22876 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:21 pm to
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Its the Jimmies and Joes. Based on last week, we lack talent in the trenches to match up against a quality SEC team.
remember we're talking about Miss St, a 5-7 team last year. I really don't think they're going on a big run this season, they just kicked our asses.

Lack of depth did hurt us pretty significantly, but I also think lack of preparation, focus and intensity were also on display.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:22 pm to
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either too stupid to know there would be a rebuild or that he lied to our AD

Or neither he nor Alleva publicly admitted what anybody watching our program for the last five years could see in five minutes watching them play because no one wanted to hear it.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288348 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:29 pm to
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and i know more football than anyone youve ever shook hands with



you really really really believe this every time you say it, dont you?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:30 pm to
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Or neither he nor Alleva publicly admitted what anybody watching our program for the last five years could see in five minutes watching them play because no one wanted to hear it.


so if we arent that talented why was miles fired for underachieving?



we are as talented as any sec team not named bama.
and damn sure talented enough to not get destroyed by a sec bottom dweller with 1 top 25 class since 2013.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:32 pm to
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you really really really believe this every time you say it, dont you?


well everyone on here knows you know nothing.


but no im just talking shite.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66260 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:34 pm to
Did you react this way after the Tennessee game in 05? Miles first 3 games were worse than Os did you give up on him after that game? Was it a mistake to hire Miles then was the program destroyed after that game?
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:37 pm
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30472 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:35 pm to
We're going to win the West
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:37 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:36 pm to
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Did you react this way after the Tennessee game in 05


uh yes.
but the circumstances were wildly different with katrina.

but even if i hadnt miles had proven he could have some success as a head coach. ed oregron hasnt.

miles wasnt an utter failure at his 1st stop.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66260 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:41 pm to
I didn't ask for you to make excuses about it you don't allow excuses when they're about O so leave them out of it. Did you want Miles canned after the Tennessee game? Did you believe the season was over and the program was headed for ruin like your saying now? How is Miles 2-1 start different than Os 2-1 start? You do realize there's no difference aside from the fact that Miles didn't actually earn his first win it was given to us by the refs.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:43 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:42 pm to
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Miles first 3 games were worse than Os did you give up on him after that game? 


give up?

please find one post of me saying he needs to be fired.

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Was it a mistake to hire Miles then was the program destroyed after that ga


miles had proven he could have succes as a hc.


its amazing the pass you give a coach that has accomplished nothing at lsu while you repeatedly bashed miles and constantly say he is a bad coach.


Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66260 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:44 pm to
Quit spinning it with your bullshite. I'm not defending anyone or bashing anyone I'm attempting to find out if you can judge these two in an identicle situation without bias and you've proven you can't. Thank you.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:46 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:46 pm to
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I didn't ask for you to make excuses about it you don't allow excuses when they're about O so leave them out of i


Katrina isnt an excuse.

what excuse does O have?


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Did you want Miles canned after the Tennessee game


find a post of mine saying he needs to be fired. just 1.
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Did you believe the season was over and the program was headed for ruin like your saying now? 



please find a post where i said the program will be ruined. just 1.
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How is Miles 2-1 start different than Os 2-1 start?


miles had proven he could be a successful head coach. ed oregron hasnt.
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You do realize there's no difference aside from the fact that Miles didn't actually win his first game it was given to us by the refs.


les miles infinitely a better coach than O. deal with it.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66260 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:47 pm to
True to form and totally biased
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:49 pm to
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Quit spinning it with your bullshite. I'm not defending anyone or bashing anyone


yes the frick you are and you literally do it every time. you hate any fact that doesnt correlate with your opinion that miles is shite coach.
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I'm attempting to find out if you can judge these two in an identicle situation without bias and you've proven you can'


except i havent once called for O to be fired. try to keep up.
i havent once said the loss saturday means o will ruin our program.

stop projecting what other posters say,on to me.

Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:50 pm to
I'll say it for you Rick. Orgeron is ruining the program. He's a bad coach. He's a bad recruiter. Welcome to Dinardo days.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:50 pm to
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True to form and totally biased





so youre equating what lsu was dealing with after Katrina to something O had to deal with Saturday?
pathetic.

get grip, you and your highschool coach buddies dont know football.
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