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re: LSU is 5th in the country in Turnover Margin

Posted on 9/30/09 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 2:24 pm to
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then someone points out that some things are out of your control (botched snap)


certainly there are unforced errors, but what may seem like a random botch may be the result of a mis-read of a defensive shift, for example. Even if the error is completely unforced, you still have to make the effort to recover the ball...the turnover margin is a nice improvement over last year, and our advantage of Georgia in this category could make a difference in the game.

Posted by Van Helsing
Member since Sep 2009
60 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 2:24 pm to
Or maybe that back was such a cocky shite that he got so pumped up that he didn't concentrate and think and made a mistake. They were about to score if you didn't know.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 3:33 pm to
well at least UGA gives a lot of "gifts" away. I can't believe this fool is actually trying to argue this. Teams make errors on every level of football. The turnover margin shows who forces the most and commits few.
This post was edited on 9/30/09 at 3:34 pm
Posted by ZackMorrisPhone
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
2696 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 3:39 pm to
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Teams make errors on every level of football.


I agree. But dont blame another teams erroe on the fact that the opposing team "was on the field."
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52563 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 3:47 pm to
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but a few of the turnovers we came up with were gifts
Give and you shall receive. We gave enough last year, so we are due for some "gifts" this year
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 3:53 pm to
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Really? go watch that absurd fumble by the back from UW. It was a bad hand off. Not forced by us. Did either of you ever play football or really understand the game?






I'm sure your years of pee-wee have instilled a technical understaning of the nuances of the game that few can grasp.

You're right, every play is the result of luck. LSU sucks. Every play that MSU had (including by the way, the errant snap) was the result of their superior skills.


I am also pretty sure an LSU guy got on the ball faster than a UW player could.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17614 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 4:32 pm to
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LSU beating MSU 4-0 in the turnover battle really blew that game open...


Didn't blow it open, but I don't think we would have liked the result if we did not get those turnovers.
Posted by purplengold1
Illinois
Member since Feb 2009
5745 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 5:09 pm to
any turnover is a gift
Posted by Van Helsing
Member since Sep 2009
60 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 5:13 pm to
No shite but if it's not forced then its a gift. What the frick is so hard to understand?
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 5:41 pm to
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but if it's not forced then its a gift. What the frick is so hard to understand?



1) They are always forced
2) You still have to grab the ball
Posted by ag4LSU21
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
305 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 5:51 pm to
I'm goin with DollaChoppa on this one. LSU did wear down MSU's offensive line and running backs, maybe even intimidated the running back. FWIW, the running back lost focus on receiving the hand off probably because he was too focused on where to go as soon as the ball was hiked. (i.e. lacking confidence in his line). Then to top it off, LSU got the loose ball. That is no gift. LSU forced the fumble through wearing them down and getting inside their heads, and then we recovered the loose ball. Again, no gift.
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