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re: LSU Fall Baseball Scrimmage stats

Posted on 10/31/22 at 7:02 pm to
Posted by ScubaTiger
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 7:02 pm to
Zeb Ruddell is a freshman outfielder from Neville High School in Monroe, La. His bio is on the roster at LSUSports.net/Baseball.
Posted by LSUvet72
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 7:04 pm to
Keep up the good work Scuba

Posted by Magician2
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 7:11 pm to
How many scrimmages have they played?
Posted by SoloTiger
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 7:29 pm to
Moffett has not been consistently at 98. He's hit it, but I would say he has been more 93-95 consistently from what I have seen.
Posted by SoloTiger
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 7:29 pm to
Thanks for the clarification DRock. Couldn't figure it out.
Posted by emanresu
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 8:05 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/31/22 at 8:06 pm
Posted by ScubaTiger
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 9:41 pm to
There have been 13 scrimmages this fall.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 5:14 am to
I think what I will do is wait until it’s over and then make a column with the team totals at the end. Assuming that is what you are talking about. Team totals
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 5:16 am to
You are right. I do include HBP when I calculate WHIP, which isn’t technically correct based off of how that stat is supposed to be. I like to include it to give me a better idea on the pitcher though. A HBP is still a free base. Just how I like to do it.
This post was edited on 11/1/22 at 5:20 am
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 6:43 am to
I try to make sure I don't read too much into fall stats, one way or the other, but the walks by the pitching staff are through the ozone layer. Some of it is undoubtedly guys just working on pitches, as they should be, but that's a lot of walks in any context.

Other than Skenes not hitting for any kind of average so far, the offense statistically seems like it's living up to it's billing, at this point. That, or our pitching, outside of a few guys, is terrible.


The joys of watching your team play itself.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 6:49 am to
Yea, I wouldn't look too much into it. You have pitchers throwing secondary pitches to work on that and also hitters working on a good approach at the plate. Laying off more off speed pitches having an idea that they will see them more because of what the pitchers want to work on.

The next 2 weeks will give a better idea on how the team will look. They will get to play other opponents and I'm sure they will use it as a chance for pitchers to work on mixing their pitches how they would in game rather than go heavy on working on specific pitches.

Plus a lot of these walks are by younger players who will have bullpen roles. I would imagine they won't see much high leverage innings if that continues and if they do, they will have a short leash.

All that to say not to look too hard into the stats. I make them as a guide on what has been going on in the fall, but they have much more going on behind the scenes that the stats don't tell.
This post was edited on 11/1/22 at 7:13 am
Posted by ScubaTiger
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:05 am to
I agree with your statements about not reading too much into fall stats. I understand, and appreciate your motivation for posting them in a clear, easy to follow format.
I'm looking forward to the Sunday exhibition game against McNeese to see this team compete against a different team. Hoping the weather doesn't interfere.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:12 am to
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Yea, I wouldn't look too much into it. You have pitchers throwing secondary pitches to work on that and also hitters working on a good approach at the plate. Laying off more off speed pitches having an idea that they will see them more because of what the pitchers want to work on.

The next 2 weeks will give a better idea on how the team will look. They will get to play other opponents and I'm sure they will use it as a chance for pitchers to work in mixing their pitches how they would in game rather than go heavy on working on specific pitches.

Plus a lot of these walks are by younger players who will have bullpen roles. I would imagine they won't see much high leverage innings if that continues and if they do, they will have a short leash.

All that to say not too look too hard into the stats. I make them as a guide on what has been going on in the spring, but they have much more going on behind the scenes that the stats don't tell.


Yeah, everything you said is why I mentioned that a lot of it is probably just guys working on pitches. I'm aware that batters, to a lesser extent, are also experimenting with things. I just couldn't help but notice that it's not just young guys, but almost everyone on the staff has a high walk rate, to a degree that seems abnormal to my recollection of a typical fall stat sheet.

I'm not panicking over it by any means. The walks just sort of jumped out at me. One other thing I noticed is that it seems Christian Little's velocity appears a bit down, as well as the fact that he's barely thrown. I probably missed it while being caught up in other things in recent weeks, but I'm guessing he's dealing with an injury?
This post was edited on 11/1/22 at 7:14 am
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:27 am to
quote:

I just couldn't help but notice that it's not just young guys, but almost everyone on the staff has a high walk rate, to a degree that seems abnormal to my recollection of a typical fall stat sheet.


I went back to my spreadsheet from last season and it seems on average the pitchers were walking approx .51 batters per inning last fall. So far this season it is around .61 batters per inning. Just for reference.

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Christian Little's velocity appears a bit down, as well as the fact that he's barely thrown. I probably missed it while being caught up in other things in recent weeks, but I'm guessing he's dealing with an injury?


Seems he is nursing something with how slow they are working with him. He did pitch in the cape some for summer so may just be some arm fatigued. Hopefully nothing serious.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6686 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:56 am to
quote:

I went back to my spreadsheet from last season and it seems on average the pitchers were walking approx .51 batters per inning last fall. So far this season it is around .61 batters per inning. Just for reference.



So it's at least up from last year, which isn't too surprising. Thanks for the info there.


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Seems he is nursing something with how slow they are working with him. He did pitch in the cape some for summer so may just be some arm fatigued. Hopefully nothing serious.



I figure it has to be something, given the very limited innings. But, yeah, definitely hoping it's just fatigue, as well. I hadn't heard anything specific come up about him.
Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 12:23 pm to
Went in and cleaned up some bone spurs in his shoulder in the offseason
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 1:07 pm to
so those that have attened most if not all.....are the stats deceiving in that they show guidry has been getting better as he becomes more comfortable....but not really showing that with JT...is that the case, has guidry closed the gap?

I still expect to see JT start and if he can play like he did at the end of the season, he will be fine...but just wondering.

Any chance guidry ends up starting at 2nd?
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10239 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 2:14 pm to
I understand the logic behind walking so many people in these scrimmages from the standpoint of working on things, and I'll also add the excuse that Jay is putting guys on base to make it harder on pitchers while working on situational at-bats. And, they're striking alot of guys out, too, so there's that.

I won't lie and say that the walk numbers aren't concerning, though. They have got to show some improvement there. If they're working on other pitches, they need to get better at those pitches. If we can't throw those pitches in the spring because they didn't get any better and still can't throw them competitively, so we have to serve up number 1s, well, it won't be fun.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10239 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

so those that have attened most if not all.....are the stats deceiving in that they show guidry has been getting better as he becomes more comfortable....but not really showing that with JT...is that the case, has guidry closed the gap?

I still expect to see JT start and if he can play like he did at the end of the season, he will be fine...but just wondering.

Any chance guidry ends up starting at 2nd?


I haven't gone to the scrimmages, so this is merely reading between the lines of the stats and reports. Guidry is as good or better than Thompson right now. Thompson's experience may make him a safer start, but Guidry's talent and performance may make it worth the gamble. I know everyone raves about Thompson's potential, but it's time to separate from the competition and he's not doing that. I don't see Thompson and Guidry starting together - Nippolt, Dugas, and Merrifield are going to play 2B.
Posted by TexasTiger33
Member since Feb 2022
14117 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 2:29 pm to
yes sir - thank you!
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