re: LSU defensive starters in Texas Bowl and number of starts

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stupid thread from a stupid poster. log out

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Posting facts is stupid? LOL sorry facts hurt your little feelings!

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Gilbert 12 starts at LSU (24 starts overall)

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First start at this position.

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Spears 4 starts at LSU

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Not the FT starter at this position. His starts were previous years.

Butler and Keyes were 2nd string. Just because they’ve started due to injury before doesn’t mean they are starters. Don’t be stupid.

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So your take is not having Haulcey, the Weeks brothers, Delane, or Perkins had zero impact on the defensive performance?

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I don’t think that’s what he said. The point is that there was plenty of experience out there for the defense to not get a complete pass. The defense got worked just like they have several times this year, unable to get ahead early in the series, unable to stop QB runs or defend the middle of the field.

Houston nearly won ToP on scoring drives, and that was after going down 14 pts. I would expect someone that is getting elite money like Baker to be more effective with just about any 11 players on our roster.

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sure, disingenuous facts while ignoring the bigger picture of op outs. all so you can paint a ridiculous irrelevant point. log out

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If you don’t think that they have enough starts and playing time under their belt to defeat the 64th ranked offense in Houston then you’re full of it. Gave up the most TD passes to Weigman all year!

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Why are you getting all flustered over some meaningless bowl game? You obviously have zero knowledge of football, So Stop posting. We got enough retards on here as is.

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It’s a sports message board LOL. Don’t be the fun police.

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Starting a new thread to try and make this low IQ point. 1) Most of those players were rotational guys. 2) missing your Thorpe award finalist at CB, all your starting linebackers, several others on D line doesn’t matter?

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Again, someone is making the point that star players are more important than being able to scheme without them.

Yes, having all the starters available should improve expectations, but no having them should not throw expectations out the window.

But we have people trying to make this obviously flawed argument while calling people low IQ.

Of those you listed only a few of them were any more than part time contributors in the overall scheme of things. Butler and Gilbert are hardly household names.
Look, the defense didn't play well. Haulcey was veteran who helped make the secondary more cohesive. His absence was huge. Delane had an AA season and was sorely missed. The entire linebacking corp was missing.

To be honest, I thought Baker got a lot out of the defense this year considering the talent and the injuries. It pretty hard to cook a gourmet meal without having the proper quality ingredients.

The past is the past. On to the future. It will have some bumps in the road but at least there is hope now.

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Shanks A Lot

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BTW, your user name might be more accurate if you replaced Shanks with Sucks.

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Again, someone is making the point that star players are more important than being able to scheme without them. Yes, having all the starters available should improve expectations, but no having them should not throw expectations out the window. But we have people trying to make this obviously flawed argument while calling people low IQ.

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I’m not going to argue the defense played well, they did not obviously. But I do not understand yall saying Baker sucks and Kiffin needs to fire him already.

Do you not understand that missing these players has an impact on guys like Pickett who had a bad game last night for example?

Missing Delane and Haulcey has a huge impact on any CB but especially a true freshman. Without Delane now Pickett is your #1 and is going to get picked on. Without Haulcey you don’t have dependable safety coverage over the top.

Missing Perkins and the D line impacts guys like Pickett as well because now you have to cover longer.

Missing your best players has an impact on everyone. Your expectations for role players playing in a meaningless bowl game for a team that just fired its coach, has a new staff coming in, has players opting out, and others deciding where they are playing next year are unrealistic expectations.

Kinda embarrassing that Haulcy didn’t play and LSU ends up losing to the school they bought him from.

Posters on this site were dogging Perkins all year calling him a liability especially against a dual threat qb but now they are using it as an excuse to why LSU lost.

Delane was a big loss. Pickett was dominated.

All I read all year was how the d-line was a highlight of this team. Zero sacks yesterday.

Baker is among the highest paid DCs in cfb. He deserves to be ridiculed after that performance.

Don’t waste your time arguing with this loser. LSU played without 5 of their best defensive players. Take 5 of Houston’s best players off the field and they lose. He’s an idiot.