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re: LSU Defense Question
Posted on 9/26/11 at 8:30 am to Hoyt
Posted on 9/26/11 at 8:30 am to Hoyt
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How do you give up 400+ yards passing to a Big East opponent
Intentionally. The statistic that matters is on the scoreboard. All else is simply a description of the route taken to get there. If WVU is scheming to attack a constant blitz using a terrific quarterback (something rarely seen in the SEC West), rushing 3 or 4 and giving them all they want between the 30's (or, more accurately, between their own 5 and our 40)and holding them to 4 fewer TDs than we score is an effective counter. If you assume that just because WVU put up that many yards means we will use the same defense against an offensively challenged Alabama team and allow the same result, you're a better internet dweeb than you are a football analyst.
This post was edited on 9/26/11 at 8:31 am
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Posted on 9/26/11 at 8:31 am to Hoyt
Gino could possibly be the best QB we face. Yes he threw for 400+ yards, but he also had to throw it 65 times to get to that number. I would be lying if I said Bama doesn't worry me, but if you think it is because I think our D won't keep you in check then you are crazy.
Posted on 9/26/11 at 8:33 am to Hoyt
More than 60 attempts with a good QB and some very good WRs. If Little Nicky wants to try that formula on Nov 5, have at it.
Posted on 9/26/11 at 8:42 am to Hoyt
Most of that was cuz we didn't bring any secondary heat. We lined up four against their six; lousy odds. The plan was to contain Gino, but give the guy his due. He played great. I think you'll see more secondary blitzing in T-town.
Posted on 9/26/11 at 8:45 am to Krypto
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Gino could possibly be the best QB we face. Yes he threw for 400+ yards, but he also had to throw it 65 times to get to that number. I would be lying if I said Bama doesn't worry me, but if you think it is because I think our D won't keep you in check then you are crazy.
This
Posted on 9/26/11 at 8:49 am to Elleshoe
post when bama plays a team not cupcakes
Posted on 9/26/11 at 8:50 am to Abe
i understand you want to get your trash talking while you still can.
Posted on 9/26/11 at 8:54 am to duboisd
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, but they are as inventive.
Dey gone kill that white boy.
Seriously, Arkansas' problem is their OL and Arkansas isn't as pass happy as WVU.
I was worried about Arky until I saw what they did vs. Alabama. They laid an egg.
Let's hope we don't have a let down game at some point....other than that, it's hard not to look forward to Alabama.....especially when Florida is lurking.
frick Auburn.
Posted on 9/26/11 at 8:54 am to Crawdaddy
Let's see... My program is playing the #2 team in the country at home and I'm the offensive guru and head coach. Should I play conservative or be aggressive? Holgorsen made himself look good with his offensive style of play. WVU needed 65 passes to try to compete in this game. The pass-happy team still lost by 26 to a balanced team (SEC style).
Miles said during the week that the d-line will need to avoid being aggressive and stay in their lanes (sounds like meddling, but I digress). This statement alone echoed the intent of the coaching staff to ask this young d-line to be disciplined. However, IMO, it took the instinctiveness of the d-line out of the game. It was obvious to me the dbs were told to keep everything in front of them for the most part because they played away from the line of scrimmage unlike in any other game. I find it amazing the defense allowed so many passing yards and the team won by so much.
I do believe Arkansas will try to do this. However, the end-result will be the same.
Miles said during the week that the d-line will need to avoid being aggressive and stay in their lanes (sounds like meddling, but I digress). This statement alone echoed the intent of the coaching staff to ask this young d-line to be disciplined. However, IMO, it took the instinctiveness of the d-line out of the game. It was obvious to me the dbs were told to keep everything in front of them for the most part because they played away from the line of scrimmage unlike in any other game. I find it amazing the defense allowed so many passing yards and the team won by so much.
I do believe Arkansas will try to do this. However, the end-result will be the same.
This post was edited on 9/26/11 at 8:57 am
Posted on 9/26/11 at 8:55 am to Hoyt
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How do you give up 400+ yards passing to a Big East opponent and expect to win the SEC West? Does it not scare the devil out of you guys that your secondary looked so suspect? No flame intended...I'll hang up and listen
If you could take your pick, would you rather:
A) 7.1 yards per pass attempt, and 2 interceptions
-OR-
B) 6.4 yards per pass attempt, and no interceptions
Posted on 9/26/11 at 9:01 am to Hoyt
quote:No, not in the least. We have a choice with our defense; pressure and shut down the passing game, or sit back and collect turnovers. With Holgorsen's quick pass happy offense and Smith's escapability and playmaking instincts, Chavis apparently thought it more productive to sit back and wait for mistakes to pounce on. Which we did. Scoreboard says great effort (about 3 TDs+ below Holgo's average performance), and we never allowed a score with less than a 13 point lead (and we haven't allowed a TD with less than a 13 point lead since the 2nd quarter vs. Oregon), so I'm not worried at all.
Does it not scare the devil out of you guys that your secondary looked so suspect?
Posted on 9/26/11 at 9:04 am to Hoyt
the real question is, do you think Alabama will be able to beat LSU scoring only 2 offensive touchdowns?
Posted on 9/26/11 at 9:05 am to Hoyt
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Does it not scare the devil out of you guys that your secondary looked so suspect?
No
quote:
No flame intended
Um,yes it was.
You've played a horrible OOC schedule. You better worry about Florida.
Posted on 9/26/11 at 9:05 am to Hoyt
Vast majority of the damage done was in the second half (especially 3rd QTR) after we were ahead 27-7.
It was easy to see what Chavis decided to do...let Smith throw the ball short a billion times and have to work to score. Limit big plays.
The stats dont always indicate the effectiveness of a defensive gameplan.
It was easy to see what Chavis decided to do...let Smith throw the ball short a billion times and have to work to score. Limit big plays.
The stats dont always indicate the effectiveness of a defensive gameplan.
Posted on 9/26/11 at 9:07 am to Hoyt
Alabama will be lucky to crack 150 through air against us
Arkansas, 200
Deal with it
Arkansas, 200
Deal with it
Posted on 9/26/11 at 9:09 am to rbdallas
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you may get away with it now and then, but it will cost you one or two big games.
Tell me a QB as good as Smith left on the schedule with all the playmakers at WR that match up to WVU? Also, who else is going to throw the ball 65 times? I don't care if he threw for 4500 yards Saturday night, that is what happens when you cannot run the ball! One-dimensional teams are not going to consistently win games against good defenses.
Posted on 9/26/11 at 9:10 am to rbdallas
quote:When our defense "struggles" like that in a game where we struggle on the scoreboard, I'll think about worrying. Til then, I'll just enjoy the domination by our team, and leave it to the lesser teams to pump up qualified stats ("we gained more yards", "y'all gave up a bunch of passing yards", "we held opponents to 2.2 fewer yards on halfback passes to the left side of the field with less than 1:53 seconds to play in the 1st quarter on the road in games that kicked off between 2:33 and 6:58 Central Time!").
you may get away with it now and then, but it will cost you one or two big games.
Scoreboard can be deceptive, but usually it's not. This is one of the usual situations. WVU mounted a momentum threat one time in the third quarter thanks to an uncharacteristic drop by Randle in the endzone and some outstanding playmaking by an outstanding QB and an outstanding athlete in Tavon (sp?) Austin. And then our dominance reasserted itself (in this case, on special teams) and we went on to win going away. Outside of that one stretch, immensely pumped up, against our defense that had lost focus momentarily, with the benefit of some rare defensive drops of otherwise INTs, they managed to be competitive for about 15 seconds. And then the penny dropped, and the rout was back on.
It will not cost us in a big game unless and until it happens in a "big game". Anytime we are leading by two TDs in a game that we end up winning by 26, it is not cause for concern.
Posted on 9/26/11 at 9:10 am to Hoyt
Is Bama gonna run a Texas Tech offense?
Posted on 9/26/11 at 9:10 am to Hoyt
I really wanted to hammer the original post, but the responses that I read on the first page pretty much did that.
You can write this down as FACT: LSU will not lose a game this year when the opposing team throws for 60+ passes in a game.
Why did they throw that many times? Because they had 0 rushing opportunities and LSU was up 20 points at half time. How did LSU get up by 20 points? 2 first half interceptions, and 1 caused fumble after the catch.
If Bama wants to test that LSU pass defense 50 or more times on Nov. 4, you go right ahead, but expect to lose by 20+ points.
You can write this down as FACT: LSU will not lose a game this year when the opposing team throws for 60+ passes in a game.
Why did they throw that many times? Because they had 0 rushing opportunities and LSU was up 20 points at half time. How did LSU get up by 20 points? 2 first half interceptions, and 1 caused fumble after the catch.
If Bama wants to test that LSU pass defense 50 or more times on Nov. 4, you go right ahead, but expect to lose by 20+ points.
Posted on 9/26/11 at 9:11 am to omegaman66
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How can bama expect to win the west when LSU can give up a 500 yards through the air and still win by 26?
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