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re: LSU began the season ranked 24th

Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:49 am to
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:49 am to
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And will finish in the top 10. Purely from an outside perspective, isn’t that beating expectations?


And pre-season rankings over-ranked Miami and Auburn. Hell, they over ranked Georgia, IMO.

The fact is, LSU was better than 10/12 (11/13) teams on their schedule, and lost 3 games. And that goes with winning a game they weren't expecting to. 9 regular season wins is not an achievement, especially when you upset a Georgia.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38896 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:51 am to
I like how you give UGA a pass for having their CB out, but don't give Michigan a pass for half their starters sitting out
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38896 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:54 am to
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Please don't forget the fact that we were picked by "every" so call expert plus Vegas to have a 6 win season.


That's a terrible argument. If LSU was expected to win only 6 games, and 3 of the teams they were penciled in to lose to had their entire roster suspended, it's exceeding expectations if they win?

I know that's an extreme hyperbole, but come on. Miami and Auburn fricking sucked. Miss State was not who people thought they were. It's not exceeding expectations when the teams you were expected to lose to shite the bed on their entire season, not just that one game.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:55 am to
Sure

But the outside is terrible at setting expectations.

Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:01 am to
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I like how you give UGA a pass for having their CB out, but don't give Michigan a pass for half their starters sitting out


Fine. Whatever. My point is that it's asinine to call an 11-win UGA team which just missed the playoffs "exposed for what they were" and to call a 10-win Florida team "questionable."
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:02 am to
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mtntiger
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The team exceeded your own expectations, yet you continue to crap on it.


DAMN STRONG post sir !!! DAMN STRONG.

I love the quoting of their posts from before the season.

It's funny that they were building teams up just to tear LSU down before the season. Now they are belittling those same teams in order to tear LSU down after the season. At least they are consistent in the "tear LSU" down department.

I'll never understand why people say they like, love, or follow something and then spend all of their time and energy trying to destroy it.

They even laid their facts out about how bad LSU recruiting was going to be. Really makes an observer shake their head in disgust.

Thanks for the post. Gets my vote for post of week and YEAR.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38896 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:04 am to
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Fine. Whatever. My point is that it's asinine to call an 11-win UGA team which just missed the playoffs "exposed for what they were" and to call a 10-win Florida team "questionable."



Georgia in 2018 really was a product of the weak SEC East. Last year Georgia had the ND win, but not so much this year. Georgia played out of their mind for the Alabama game, but should have been undefeated going into it.

There was 1 team on Georgia's schedule this year that they were less talented than, and they lost 3 games.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46507 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:08 am to
It's funny this board hates the media until it fits their narrative.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:10 am to
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There was 1 team on Georgia's schedule this year that they were less talented than, and they lost 3 games.


Well, one was an extra game against the potential national champion. A game which they nearly won.

Another was to LSU.

So was LSU that good? Or not? What's the point you're trying to make?

I give credit where credit is due. Texas beat UGA. But to look at the result of that game and claim that UGA "was exposed" is dumb. Texas obviously wanted it that much more, and it showed on the field.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:10 am to
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You are really bad at categorizing football teams.


Their only purpose is to bash LSU. It has nothing personal or factual to do with UGA or Florida. They don't expect people to actually read the part about the other teams.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16544 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:13 am to
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Georgia in 2018 really was a product of the weak SEC East. Last year Georgia had the ND win, but not so much this year. Georgia played out of their mind for the Alabama game, but should have been undefeated going into it.

There was 1 team on Georgia's schedule this year that they were less talented than, and they lost 3 games.

How is UGA an overrated team? They have 2 5 star QBs, 4 5 star RBs, one of the highest ranked OLs and an exceptionally talented defense. The only team in CFB with more talent would be Bama.

So either they are a very talented team or their coaches all suck bc they are not meeting expectations.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:14 am to
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I tend to view Vegas as a better judge of performance. LSU went 6-6 against the spread. I'd say that's pretty even keel for performance. Fireable offense - of course not. Super pat on the back performance - not really.


That's pretty stupid.

If LSU loses 9 games but beats the spread in 8 of them, THEN they are successful to you?
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38896 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:15 am to
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Well, one was an extra game against the potential national champion. A game which they nearly won.

Another was to LSU.

So was LSU that good? Or not? What's the point you're trying to make?

I give credit where credit is due. Texas beat UGA. But to look at the result of that game and claim that UGA "was exposed" is dumb. Texas obviously wanted it that much more, and it showed on the field.


Georgia was a solid team that was ranked based on last years results. They weren't a top 5 team. They are a better version of Notre Dame that played out of their minds in 1 challenging game and played flat in another challenging game.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:18 am to
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So, LSU ended up with the 3rd hardest schedule instead of the hardest


Damnit man. Have you not been told???

Do NOT bring fact and proof to an innuendo and rumor board. Please try to go by ranter standards. Thank you !!!
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:19 am to
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Georgia was a solid team


Great. We can agree on that.

My original response was because the other poster was claiming that LSU's win over UGA apparently wasn't that impressive.

I think any win over a top-10 team (I'm guessing UGA will finish around #8-10) is an impressive win.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 10:20 am
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38896 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:23 am to
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How is UGA an overrated team?


They lost to the only 3 challenging teams they played

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They have 2 5 star QBs, 4 5 star RBs, one of the highest ranked OLs and an exceptionally talented defense. The only team in CFB with more talent would be Bama.


Well, Fromm is was only a 4* and Fields didn't do much (which is why he transferred). RBs were solid, but not utilized correctly in important games (like LSU)

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So either they are a very talented team or their coaches all suck bc they are not meeting expectations.



It was a combination of both. Kirby made some TERRIBLE calls against LSU (fake FG?) and that fake punt against Alabama is something he will never be able to live down
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38896 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:24 am to
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Damnit man. Have you not been told???

Do NOT bring fact and proof to an innuendo and rumor board. Please try to go by ranter standards. Thank you !!!


I'd really be curious to see what strength of schedules are like when removing all FCS teams from schedules. The SEC is notorious for over-scheduling FCS teams and beefing up their win totals.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38896 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:25 am to
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Great. We can agree on that.


Georgia over-achieved last year, IMO. I was not expecting them to come onto the scene that quick. They aren't going anywhere, which is good for you and Georgia.

I like them to be real challengers next season.
Posted by Vanilla Ice
2018 Saints Talk Poster of the Year
Member since Apr 2013
5455 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:26 am to
Then our expectations are too low dipshit

So, if the expectation is 0-12, a 2-10 season is a success?


fricking moron
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:30 am to
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They lost to the only 3 challenging teams they played


OK. They also handily beat 3 teams that finished in the final CFP rankings. Two of which will probably be in the top 12 in the final polls.

UGA couldn't win the big one (again) this year. But to say they lost all their challenging games is incorrect. Why is #15 Texas a "challenging team" but #10 Florida is not?

UGA was a very good (but not elite) team this year.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 10:33 am
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