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re: LSU athletics and poorly constructed facilities

Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:35 pm to
Whether the standard or not...Baum is an awesome stadium.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:45 pm to
All chairbacks. No ugly ads. It's really beautiful.

I actually did a little research here. LSU has by far the ugliest ads and the scoreboard doesn't help and neither does that monstrosity that is the planet fitness board. We are also one of only 3 SEC teams that uses bleacher seating down the lines. It's us, Tennessee and Missouri. That's it. Kentucky has some area where you can bring your own chairs. It's like a berm but there's concrete to add extra seats for NCAA tournaments. Other than that, just the Box. It's embarrassing. LSU has also gone the longest without a true renovation or rebuild outside of Auburn which hasn't touched their stadium in a major way since 1996 and Arkansas which did their last reno in 2007 and at that time was the standard for college baseball and in many ways still is.

Bama - 2015 renovation
A&M - 2012 renovation
Ole Miss - 2009 renovation
State - Demolish and rebuild in 2019
Missouri had a renovation in 2014
Florida is new this year
Tennessee renovated in 2010
Kentucky got a new field in 2019
South Carolina 2009 new and better than ours
Vandy was built in 2002 and renovated in 2006, 07, 09, 12, and 16
UGA was renovated in 2015
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:49 pm to
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Opened at the same time the Box did at a cost of 35.6 million.


Baum opened in 1996. The new Box in 2009.
It was said that when Baum was initially built it was the “standard”.
I was asking what made it so.

Since Baum first opened they have done a great job of taking a rather small stadium of less than 4000 seats and improving it.
There’s no argument here.

LSU went symmetrical, cookie cutter and large. They didn’t go artistic, or lavish. That’s obvious.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:49 pm to
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Baum opened in 1996. The new Box in 2009.
That picture is USC's stadium. They call it Founders now. It opened the same year as the box and was and is better in every way for the fans.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 1:50 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:51 pm to
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It was said that when Baum was initially built it was the “standard”.
I was asking what made it so.
It was the standard by 2003 and remained so for many years. It has looked like it currently does since 2007. Yet LSU couldn't come close to matching it. LSU's capacity when it first opened was about 9k. It took the extra suites and outfield seating to get past the 10k mark.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:56 pm to
LSU added boxes, video screen/scoreboards, did the OF bleachers to increase capacity and that’s about it.

I could care less about the ads. You go to a mlb park or a minor league park and you are bombarded by ads.

It’s not embarrassing. The golf course across the street is embarrassing. The roof leaks at Middleton are embarrassing, Les Miles, King A is embarrassing, Alex Box is not embarrassing.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 2:04 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:58 pm to
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Alex Box is not embarrassing.
I guess standards are relative. If you're sitting under the overhang, it's a fine experience. I feel bad for the season ticket holders down the lines and in LF who come to what is supposed to be one of the meccas of college baseball and it's a bottom half experience compared to other sec stadiums.
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The golf course across the street is embarrassing.
I've seen recent pictures of the greens. I don't know how anyone can justify paying a dollar to play there. Almost 100% dirt/sand.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41667 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:03 pm to
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guess standards are relative. If you're sitting under the overhang, it's a fine experience. I feel bad for the season ticket holders down the lines and in LF who come to what is supposed to be one of the meccas of college baseball and it's a bottom half experience compared to other sec stadiums.


So sitting in the Sun and not having a chair back makes a stadium “embarrassing”?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:03 pm to
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I could care less about the ads. You go to a mlb park or a minor league park and you are bombarded by ads.
It's all of them together for me and knowing how well they can be done. It's no different than an HOA requiring lawns to look a certain way so the neighborhood doesn't look cheap. Other schools get ads and they're consistent and less obnoxious. The planet fitness sign really grinds my gears. But you also have the batter's eye to complete the facade. I just expect better.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:04 pm to
Baum>>>>>>>>>Alex Box
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:04 pm to
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So sitting in the Sun and not having a chair back makes a stadium “embarrassing”?
I'll lower my standards then. Let's redo the whole stadium with nothing but the bleachers from LF. It's just the sun and a missing chair back right?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41667 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:05 pm to
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It's all of them together for me and knowing how well they can be done. It's no different than an HOA requiring lawns to look a certain way so the neighborhood doesn't look cheap. Other schools get ads and they're consistent and less obnoxious. The planet fitness sign really grinds my gears. But you also have the batter's eye to complete the facade. I just expect better.

To each their own, I’d rather the money be plowed into chsirback seats, than a batters eye. I’d rather an overhang down the foul lines rather than chair back seats. I’d rather see a better team and not worry about the stadium.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:08 pm to
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To each their own, I’d rather the money be plowed into chsirback seats, than a batters eye. I’d rather an overhang down the foul lines rather than chair back seats. I’d rather see a better team and not worry about the stadium.
I made a hierarchy list of things that need to change. All of this was above the ads. It's just still on the list for me.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41667 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:08 pm to
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I'll lower my standards then. Let's redo the whole stadium with nothing but the bleachers from LF. It's just the sun and a missing chair back right?

I guess you’d be embarrassed going to the bleachers in Wrigley, or sit on the green monster at Fenway.

If you hate the Sun go to a night game. You won’t be embarrassed then.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:10 pm to
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I guess you’d be embarrassed going to the bleachers in Wrigley, or sit on the green monster at Fenway.
Both stadiums have chairbacks all down the lines.
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If you hate the Sun go to a night game. You won’t be embarrassed then.
I haven't mentioned the overhang as an issue, but okay. I only referenced it as that's where our chairbacks stop.

ETA: I've been to Fenway too. Had a nice covered seat down past 3rd base. Only issue is you better hope you don't get a seat right behind a support beam.

Still haven't made it to Wrigley yet. It's on the list if I ever get to Chicago.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 2:13 pm
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:15 pm to
The biggest screw up was not elevating the iconic look of Tiger Stadium when they added the Westside upper deck and re-designed the westside, it’s horrible. Thank God the north side still looks like Tiger Stadium.
I’m still holding out for a big eye of the tiger on top of the PMAC. How long will it take to understand the branding value of a big eye for TV flyovers and photos?
Posted by SaveFarris
Member since Apr 2012
2488 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:16 pm to
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I actually did a little research here. LSU has by far the ugliest ads










Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107969 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:18 pm to
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Also, as others have said, LSU was the first to take the jump and put money into a new Baseball Stadium. The rest of the nation jumped after LSU putting LSU at a perceived disadvantage to some.


bullshite

Arkansas finshed their reno 2 years before LSU, and it is much nicer

USCe opened their park the same exact season as LSU, and its much nicer

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:27 pm to
Now do SEC baseball stadiums since that's the comparison for everything else. Or should we be mad that we don't have 40k chairback seats?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:32 pm to
Baum:



Sewell:



Olsen:



Swayze:



Dudy:



Plainsman:



Nelson:



Florida:



Proud:



Founders:



Hawkins:



Foley:







LSU:



This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 2:51 pm
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