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re: LSU 58 @ Texas Tech 82 Final - ESPN2

Posted on 12/7/25 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 4:25 pm to
Supposedly Zipper was behind on defense to start the season. It is reasonable to think he has improved. It does look like McMahon was giving him more time the last few games. Today he had an opportunity (almost got in 1st half) and took advantage.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 4:59 pm to
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love to have Victorious miller over Max Mackinnon


It's fricking unbelievable
Posted by Badbeetpete
Member since Nov 2025
387 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:02 pm to
Better start than I expected really. Today was ugly tho. But sometimes a loss is a good thing. I just want them to be competitive in the SEC this year. Is that too much to ask? No reason w in state talent that we can't be good.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44848 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:05 pm to
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Better start than I expected really.
Today is the first time we played a team with a NET or Kenpom under 100. Point being, we played a shite schedule until today and why the record looked good.
Posted by jlbasm
Aledo, TX
Member since Oct 2010
4671 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:18 pm to
Everyone with a brain said this well before the season began - it’s remarkable watching the idiots buy into the bs hype - “this is his best team yet”, “he’s finally got a big and a point guard”, “we have depth”.

What we have is yet another house of cards and the foundation is already crumbling. Bottom dwelling overpaid bunch of posers and their leader mcdenial.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:30 pm to
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Today is the first time we played a team with a NET or Kenpom under 100. Point being, we played a shite schedule until today and why the record looked good.


Except for UCF in the exhibition game with Reed, whose currently 53rd in KenPom. After this loss, LSU is 39th, which I think is about right without Reed. With Reed, I think we'd be 5 to 10 spots higher, but we wouldn't be a top 25 team anyway. Texas Tech is a top 25 team, and they had a great shooting day, while LSU had a terrible shooting day, but I think LSU is a better team than what showed up today.
Posted by DaleGribblesMower
Member since Dec 2013
7100 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:35 pm to
So the basketball season has officially started haha
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78487 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:41 pm to
SMU just beat Moo St in OT, got blown out by Vandy, and are in tight game with A&M mid way through the 2nd half. If we look bad against them then the writing is on the wall.
Posted by drizztiger
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:42 pm to
The problem is UCF doesn’t count for anything as it was an exhibition. I watched the game and both teams tried to win, but it’s meaningless.

I don’t think we’re as bad as we looked today, but as of now we would be something like:
0-1 Quad 1
1-0 Quad 2
2-0 Quad 3
4-0 Quad 4

If we lose to SMU next week, this OOC has been crap, even if our record ends up 11-2.

That’s what I don’t understand about some posters. They will yell all day about football that Indiana, Notre Dame, etc. don’t play anyone and they aren’t deserving of anything, yet they’ll look at LSU MBB and see 8-0 or 11-2 and say, looking good - while completely ignoring the schedule.
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
729 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:02 pm to
It doesn't matter that the UCF game didn't count. It matters because it showed that LSU is a good team, and probably at least a top 50 team. Texas Tech is a top 20 team, and they are clearly better, and today's game showed that LSU is not nearly as good. I think the SMU game is the one that will tell us the most about this team. LSU is currently 39th in KenPom and SMU is now 40th, so if LSU is truly a top 40 team, then that game should be very close. I'm not confident that LSU is the 39th best team, but I think it is close. It is a good thing for LSU that SMU won the game against Texas A&M in OT, because had SMU lost, they would've been hungrier. On the other hand, wining like that toughens a team up, but I'd rather that than a team up against the wall to win.
Posted by drizztiger
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Member since Mar 2007
44848 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:39 pm to
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It doesn't matter that the UCF game didn't count. It matters because it showed that LSU is a good team,
An exhibition win didn’t show jack shite besides it was a good exhibition game. It counts absolutely zero for LSU getting into the NCAAT.

So many dudes hanging their hat on an exhibition win truly shows the state of the program. I’m almost speechless to the extent people will go to find a way to their narrative.

“We’re a good team” - now how do I get there? Can’t use the cupcake schedule or today’s blowout loss. So what can I use? Oh yeah, the exhibition game. That proves my point. Checkers mate, bitches. Laughable.

And I enjoyed the win, I’m glad we looked good, but holy shite this exhibition game stuff is out of hand. This rivals some of the most talked about exhibitions of all time. Insane.

And yes, SMU will tell us a lot. Win this game and the remaining 3 cupcakes and OOC is salvageable with the only loss being a Quad 1. Lose to SMU, then the OOC was crap for LSU.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34068 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:54 pm to
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An exhibition win didn’t show jack shite besides it was a good exhibition game. It counts absolutely zero for LSU getting into the NCAAT.



The bottom line is what does this program want to be? One that can compete in the upper tier of college basketball? Or one that’s happy to occasionally beat the bottom tier of other major conferences and hope that is enough to achieve the bare minimum of “success”?

The ONLY thing separating LSU from Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, hell, at this point, Vanderbilt, is the head coach. That’s it! To anyone who was willing to be objective could see in season 1 McMahon was not that guy. Be it 1 year or 6 years, he’s not going to be that guy. He doesn’t have “it”.
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