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re: Lowell Narcisse is starting to shine..

Posted on 4/15/18 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108685 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 5:32 pm to
This thread is absolutely priceless. It's the middle of fricking April.

I can't wait for the ridiculous "I told you so" threads at about 7 pm Saturday night after the the spring game.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52189 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 5:36 pm to
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This thread is absolutely priceless. It's the middle of fricking April.

I can't wait for the ridiculous "I told you so" threads at about 7 pm Saturday night after the the spring game.


It's crazy. No one even knows what kind of offense LSU is implementing but we've got people declaring two QBs with conflicting styles as starters. All the while completely disregarding the oldest of the bunch who may end up being the starter due to his maturity.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108685 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 5:41 pm to
LMAO. They don't even have half of the offense put in yet. How the hell can they even begin to evaluate who's gonna be the starter 5 months from now with only a couple dozen plays installed? And 24 is probably being generous.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 5:43 pm to
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Why are you asking me what the problem is? I haven't said anything negative about any of the QBs.



OK.. LSU has had 4 decent seasons with a good QB.. Mauck in 2003 JR in 2006, Flynn in 2007 and Mett in 2013..... With ALL the talent LSU has had... Why did we not have better QB play.....
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108685 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 5:45 pm to
Oh wow, I'm interested to see where this is going.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52189 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 5:47 pm to
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Oh wow, I'm interested to see where this is going.


I'm honestly unsure where it's going. LSU has had poor QB play in the recent past by both dual threat and pocket passers, and that was under a different coaching staff.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 5:49 pm to
Injury prone
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108685 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 5:53 pm to
Has he had other injuries besides the 2 major knee injuries? I have no idea, but there are plenty of players that come back from ACL tears that aren't "injury prone".
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 8:08 pm to
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Has he had other injuries beside the 2 major knee surgeries? I have no idea, but there are plenty of players that come back from ACL tears that aren’t “injury prone”.




Not if you are a DT QB at LSU.. Then ACL tears are career ending, even though they can’t name one player whose career ended or was dramatically changed in college or the pros in the last 20 years. Yet any complement about Narcisse brings them out acting like he is permanently crippled. Oh yeah, and he is wildly inaccurate.
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8479 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 8:12 pm to
Every spring a we have a world beater that doesn't pan out in the fall..., every year.
Posted by tigercreole
United States of Russia
Member since Jul 2013
3294 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 8:31 pm to
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OK.. LSU has had 4 decent seasons with a good QB.. Mauck in 2003 JR in 2006, Flynn in 2007 and Mett in 2013..... With ALL the talent LSU has had... Why did we not have better QB play.....

No Rohan,JaMarcus or 2011 Jefferson?
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 8:35 pm to
My positive outlook is in the hope that Les Miles’s play not to lose, fear of the turnover and fear of the middle of the field, use two max wide receiver offense has been forever exercised from the LSU football program. Time will tell.

Hopefully the current staff will adjust and make any needed change if their choice as starting QB does not perform at a high level that leads to winning football. If that is the case, It really doesn’t matter which is chosen to start. That is unless it wasn’t a fair competition and the other leaves the program.

Given a fair and complete competition, the cream always rises to the top, regardless of fan or coach preference. The goal of having a game manager at QB has to end. We need a difference maker. Someone who can take over a game. Hopefully the one that fits that description is the one chosen as the starting QB. And if each fits that description, let’s figure out a way to involve each.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:17 am to
I honestly think this could be the year where you really could have two QB's. Like a Leak/Tebow deal.. I like Brennan and I think he is the future but you dont have a RB to compliment him..That will hurt.. And I really believe that Narcisse is the real deal.. I think if here were at a say Ohio State or Florida he would be one of the tops in the country... I think the kid is that good, but he has to get an opportunity in a game, both kids are gamers.. And I think both are really good. I would have felt better with Brennan had he have a RB though.. Narcisse i think its a gamble that he stays healthy..
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
Member since Jan 2006
5792 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:37 am to
Bless you. No matter that punctuation is not a friend for you. Being slow mentally isn't a killer. You can still get a job, just like Chad Kelly. Heck, he was the very last player taken. You qualify.
Posted by bengalfan50
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
2691 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 4:50 am to
Oh my!! He has improved as he can hit the ground 100% of the time. Of course that is gravity assisted. If he plays it will be wildcat and maybe shuffle to the running back nothing more if they plan to win. If he starts he will be a pic six machine.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
20487 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 6:08 am to
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My positive outlook is in the hope that Les Miles’s play not to lose, fear of the turnover and fear of the middle of the field, use two max wide receiver offense has been forever exercised from the LSU football program. Time will tell.


Number one: the word is “exorcised.”

Number Two: Did you watch the bowl game and see what nutless O did at the one yard line?

Number three: Did you watch the Alabama game? Nutless O played “not to lose” where he could spin that we “played Alabama tough.” Bottom line: they took a mercy-knee on us.

Miles is long gone and Orgeron is entering into his third year.

You’ve got plenty material with the present regime for examples of “playing not to lose.”

O-pumpers have this image of him being this super-macho coach, but his coaching so far when the grind is on has been nutless and gutless.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 6:53 am
Posted by the paradigm
Moon Township, PA
Member since Sep 2017
5417 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 6:36 am to
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Not if you are a DT QB at LSU.. Then ACL tears are career ending, even though they can’t name one player whose career ended or was dramatically changed in college or the pros in the last 20 years. Yet any complement about Narcisse brings them out acting like he is permanently crippled. Oh yeah, and he is wildly inaccurate.


Exactly.

The Brennan-backers are in a no-lose situation heading in to the spring game. If Brennan outperforms Narcisse, they’ll say, “See? We told ya so” and if Narcisse outperforms Brennan they’ll say, “You realize this was just a glorified practice, right? Only 30% of the offense has been installed...”
Posted by TigerCliff777
Member since Feb 2013
4676 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 7:12 am to
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Go ask LF7 how it was to play against Alabama with no threat to throw the ball behind center two years in a row. Great defenses stack the box and shut the run game down.


yep

sick of it - fix it LSU - enough is enough

everything we do should be getting us ready to beat Bama knowing what they are going to do until they can't do what they have done since Jan 2011 !!

Fix It !!

Lowell could be part of that fix
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:08 am to
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Number one: the word is “exorcised.”

Number Two: Did you watch the bowl game and see what nutless O did at the one yard line?

Number three: Did you watch the Alabama game? Nutless O played “not to lose” where he could spin that we “played Alabama tough.” Bottom line: they took a mercy-knee on us.

Miles is long gone and Orgeron is entering into his third year.

You’ve got plenty material with the present regime for examples of “playing not to lose.”

O-pumpers have this image of him being this super-macho coach, but his coaching so far when the grind is on has been nutless and gutless.


First, thanks for the correction on exorcised vs. exercised usage. The first grammatical correction I have received in 13 years of posting. So pat yourself on the back for being the first. Grammatical errors are of utmost important. Especially when one disagrees with the statement made by the grammatical perpetrator.

Second, I believe you somehow conclude by my hopes that the previous regime's offensive woes are "exorcised" from the program translates into me saying O is our savior on offense. Your error. I'm no O pumper.

I believe the success or failure of the offense under O is yet to be determined. But I do know the ineptitude of QB development under Miles is unarguable. And that his conservative offense led to losses and games that were closer than necessary at the end. Many times giving the team that should have been dominated a chance to win the game at the end with a field goal or late score.

As relates to the Alabama game. Anyone with any football knowledge knows the limitations of Etling affected play calling. And even then there were plenty of opportunities to score and win that game had execution been better. A less limited QB probably would have won that game.

The choice on the goal line in the Bowl game was a bad call when viewed through post game 20-20 vision. Had he went for it and failed and ended up losing the game by less than 3, you would be here claiming him an imbecile for not going for the easy field goal. A fair minded person would recognize taking the field goal was not a terrible decision as many, like you claim. By the way at the time, I felt he should have gone for it. But wont castigate him for taking the field goal. Had the defense held and not given up the busted play, the game would have been won.

I say again O's offensive success or failure has not been determined. Mile's was established after more than a decade at LSU. Although O is going into his third year as you say, the first he was interim with Mile's system and players. The second was still with Mile's players and Canada. The upcoming third will be with his personnel mainly with his QB and hand chosen offensive coordinator. This year, we can grade his offense and his philosophy of aggressiveness or conservativeness.



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299270 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:11 am to
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The Brennan-backers are in a no-lose situation heading in to the spring game.


WTF is a Brennan backer?

I love how you people immediately make this some us vs them thing.
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