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re: Love to hear from Kelly diehards

Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:33 am to
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:33 am to
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It's 12 am and you're writing books on here knighting for BK
You did the same for O.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31973 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:33 am to
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Thats why people are still complaining. He is still making bad decisions and putting a shitty product on the field.



He doesn't see it that way. Evidently he's perfectly fine with what he's seen for the last month.

Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:37 am to
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Where did I say that?

SidewalkTiger:
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There's no reason to just constantly make vague complaints about coaching
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
2318 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:41 am to
The last 3 weeks have been alarming for sure. I'm not disagreeing with that. It's either you have faith that Kelly can fix it or you don't. Some don't have faith that he can. I do have faith that he can. I don't think he is like some coaches in the past for LSU that did not want to fix anything ( Miles and O).

Kelly wants to win a championship. He wants that legacy. I don't think he left ND to come to LSU to not win one. Nuss is trying to be a hero. The defense does not have players yet and there is some confusion with plays on the defense. Baker is capable of getting the defense better.

Sucks 8-4 would be the ceiling. If next year turns out this way, then Kelly is going to be feeling a lot of heat and justifiable.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31973 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:46 am to
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The last 3 weeks have been alarming for sure. I'm not disagreeing with that.


Agreed.


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It's either you have faith that Kelly can fix it or you don't. Some don't have faith that he can. I do have faith that he can.


Agreed. I am not calling for him to be fired but fans save a lot of money to go to the games, to see improvements. No one is expecting to see a player created but they do expect to see improvement.

That's a fair stance.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16231 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:53 am to
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Woody got played because there aren’t any football people making decisions at the top. To shell out that kind of money on an underachieving dinosaur is insane. I like the hire to stabilize the program but you don’t do it for 10 years. You wanna overpay, fine but it’s a 5 year deal or in that range at least.


This. Makes me want to physically vomit.

He got us into so much worse shape than we were with O.
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
2318 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:54 am to
Agreed. College football today is about instant results. No coach is going to be at the same school for a decade unless it is Saban.

I have said this in another post a few weeks ago about Dabo. Clemson fans had been wanting him fired bc the last few years they have not shown improvement. Now Clemson is positioned to win the ACC and make the CFP. He never goes into the transfer portal. All his players are high school recruits. He changed OC and DC and took awhile but they made it work.

The fans have the right to complain and be worried. If this was a team that was poised to win it all, I would be pissed. This team lost too much offensive weapons with a lot of unknowns and never felt this was the year.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:55 am to
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Where did I say that?

SidewalkTiger:
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There's no reason to just constantly make vague complaints about coaching


"Vague complaints about coaching" to me is all of this whining about preparation and playcalling and culture and mindset, none of us are privy to any of that information so STFU about it, it sounds stupid.

If you just want to complain about the product looking bad on the field, that's fine.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:57 am to
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You keep saying he made errors with his initial hires. Which happened three years ago.


I'm talking about the current hires.


It's pretty straightforward.


None of us are qualified to accurately judge the current hires.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
14614 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:04 am to
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The loss today was disappointing but not really BK fault.


BK's in charge and ultimately responsible for everything on the fricking field......:
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31973 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:10 am to
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None of us are qualified to accurately judge the current hires.



Even based on results from the last 10 games? You said twice that the "issue" has been rectified. How has it been rectified?

This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 2:11 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:12 am to
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Even based on results from the last 10 games?


You certainly have an opinion on the matter


I have no idea how good of an offensive coordinator Joe Sloan is. I see probably 10% of what he actually does.

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You said twice that the "issue" has been rectified. How has it been rectified?

I was talking about the initial defensive hires when I said the issue had been rectified.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 2:14 am
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31973 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:14 am to
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I have no idea how good of an offensive coordinator Joe Sloan is. I see probably 10% of what he actually does.



I didn't ask your opinion of Sloan.


Read the quote you quoted again.

This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 2:16 am
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31973 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:16 am to
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was talking about the initial defensive hires when I said the issue had been rectified.



So you were talking about something that happened three years ago? When they clearly weren't. You even said as much in this thread.


Why you refuse to say the head coach isn't responsible for the regression his team has had in the last four weeks is beyond me.




This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 2:19 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78296 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:18 am to
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You guys were talking big shite about 4 weeks ago . Can’t seem to find many of you lately . What gives ?


We’re just LSU fans.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:21 am to
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So you were talking about something that happened three years ago? When they clearly weren't. You even said as much in this thread.


Why you refuse to say the head coach isn't responsible for the regression his team has had in the last four weeks is beyond me.


How drunk are you right now?
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31973 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:23 am to
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How drunk are you right now?



I'm lucid.


You're the one defending Kelly at every turn. In the last month, LSU has looked terrible. Even the strong part of the team, the OL, has regressed.


Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:28 am to
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I'm lucid


Weird, you keep talking in circles and seem to be struggling to understand basic statements.

For the record, I don't believe the team has actually regressed, I think their weaknesses have just been exposed and opponents are taking advantage of that.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:30 am to
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"Vague complaints about coaching" to me is all of this whining about preparation and playcalling and culture and mindset, none of us are privy to any of that information so STFU about it, it sounds stupid.

I’ll answer each one of these individually.

Preparation: LSU continuously falls behind in games. I’m not sure exactly what you want to call that, but I can certainly understand why people would say that the team isn’t prepared.

Play calling: Brian Kelly literally admitted that he is more involved in play calling now. So he obviously agrees that play calling could be better.

Culture and mindset: Today we had 2 guys suspended for disciplinary issues.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31973 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:30 am to
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you keep talking in circles and seem to be struggling to understand basic statements.



I keep asking you who is responsible for the current state of the program and you blame it on hires made from three years ago.


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I don't believe the team has actually regressed


Of course not. That would mean that Kelly didn't do his job.
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