re: Look how Coach O has transformed our DL..

Well Roddy is now a TE so he doesn't really count and I just mentioned the key guys at this time that I've heard are improving but Moffit just got here and will probably be a player in a year or two as well. Washington is another you right. Point being that the front seven has turned around almost immediately and will continue to get better. Now he's trying to improve the OL which will probably take more time but until LSU is noticed nationally he will rely on his own analysis of OL recruits who he sees will develop into big time players who can compete with the better DLs in the SEC. I think this will be turned around as well. MLB is on its way so is the QB position. All positions LSU fans wanted to see changed. I think he's doing that or at least trying hard to get it done. GT

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A few guys that LSU will absolutely depend on were not recruited to LSU by Ed

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Going off Dandy's depth chart I would say 4 of the top 6 D-Line are here because of Coach O (bolded).

Nose Tackle:
No. 99 Greg Gilmore 6-4, 308, SR
No. 95 Ed Alexander 6-2, 333, SO

Defensive End:
No. 90 Rashard Lawrence 6-3, 301, SO
No. 97 Frank Herron 6-4, 305, SR

Defensive End:
*** No. 18 Christian LaCouture 6-5, 301, SR
No. 96 Glen Logan 6-4, 315, RSFR

*** Christian LaCouture has stated that he did not go pro and sat out the year to learn from Coach O and Coach Jenkins.

"Orgeron, Aranda and Jenkins all convinced him he had goals he could achieve by staying with the Tigers one more year."
No. 18 in your program, Christian LaCouture was already No. 1 in the eyes of many

***"A three-year starter along the defensive line for the Tigers who returns for a fifth year after missing all of 2016 with a knee injury"
"Will play defensive end in Dave Aranda’s 3-4 scheme … Can move inside to defensive tackle when the Tigers shift to a 4-3 alignment"
"Last year while sitting out due to injury, served as a student coach alongside Pete Jenkins, for the defensive line"
"Will wear the No. 18 jersey this year, a number symbolic with being a team leader and selfless player who best represents what it means to be a LSU Tiger"
https://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205999676

Actually both Brennen and Narcise decommitted and then recommitted to Orgeron plus I'm talking about the change he will bring with Canada being here. I'll bet money that our QB situation changes quickly with Orgeron here and was a huge problem previously.

Previously LSU was always lacking depth somewhere and I'm willing to bet that changes under O. Miles was a decent coach and great recruiter but I'll bet we find out that O is both a great coach and recruiter in time. We'll see soon I guess.

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He started at LSU in his freshman year. He was a starter all three years.

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actually he didn't. he played a lot as the 3rd DT as a freshman, but didn't start. Freak and Ego were the starters.

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The players are better for sure.

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Better than what?? Everyone is right Les Mile's defenses sucked especially the DL!!! This is how Miles won football games with great D and ball control offense. Miles had a lot of DL drafted while he was hear but I'm glad Coach O is going to fix that.

WOW

I'm optimistic about the D-line for the first time in a while. However, there is more "potential" than proven results right now. Key is obviously a star, but aside from him there is a lot of "maybe" with the DL.

Lacoture, though not a gamebreaker, is a solid player
We've been waiting on Herron/Clark/Gilmore to live up to their recruiting rankings for 3-4 years. It's been a down last few years for the DL and none of these guys have ever been able to make much of an impact. Why is there reason to think "this is the year"?

The big question is how much have Lawrence/Alexander improved since last year? It's very tough to make a big impact as a freshman along the DL. If they have made the jump we all hope they have, then LSU could have a really good DL, which in turn would make up for some of the personnel losses in the LB/DB group. If not, things might be tough.

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Better than what?? Everyone is right Les Mile's defenses sucked especially the DL!!! This is how Miles won football games

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Agreed, if you're talking about Miles' whole tenure. But after 2011, as first Brockers and then Logan, matriculated, the dline dropped off terribly.

We had to rely on Godchaux to start as a freshman and LaCouture in the two-deep as a freshman and as a starter as a sophomore. Those dlines were crushed by SEC offenses.

Miles responded, and started recruiting those positions hard. But as someone pointed out above, other position groups started to slip, like LB. We were so lucky at LB and RB the last few years. If we had injuries there we would have been in serious trouble.

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We were so lucky at LB and RB the last few years. If we had injuries there we would have been in serious trouble.

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RB, really???? Fournette, Guice and Williams!! Les Miles over his LSU coaching span probably had the best stable of RBs year in and year out than any other coach in their span at a university. He could recruit the hell out of RBs.