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Let's talk Mich St
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:44 am
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:44 am
One thing is for certain. This game, like every LSU game, will be a nail biter.
Izzo teams are always well coached and he has a week to break down LSU. That's scary. Mich St is typically a man-to-man team but LSU has really struggled against zone. Will MSU break tendencies or will they stay with what's comfortable?
Mich St. is usually a gritty, physical team but I think LSU actually holds the physical/talent advantage in this one. MSU also doesn't have any NBA locks. JR Cassius Winston is their leader and is a great college guard but not sure he's a NBA player.
Going to be a great game against a great team.
Izzo teams are always well coached and he has a week to break down LSU. That's scary. Mich St is typically a man-to-man team but LSU has really struggled against zone. Will MSU break tendencies or will they stay with what's comfortable?
Mich St. is usually a gritty, physical team but I think LSU actually holds the physical/talent advantage in this one. MSU also doesn't have any NBA locks. JR Cassius Winston is their leader and is a great college guard but not sure he's a NBA player.
Going to be a great game against a great team.
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:46 am to HoopyD
They didn't play a lot of zone this year (basically never), but Tom Izzo, who I think might be the greatest X and O coach in the college game, has nearly a week to get his guys ready.
My guess, we're going to see a lot of zone.
His teams play excellent team ball. Great ball movement, great fundamentals, etc. They always have experienced players and a mix of young talent, which always helps in the tournament.
My guess, we're going to see a lot of zone.
His teams play excellent team ball. Great ball movement, great fundamentals, etc. They always have experienced players and a mix of young talent, which always helps in the tournament.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:46 am to HoopyD
Don't think it'll be close at all honestly. Lose by 10+
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:48 am to HoopyD
In game adjustments will be a problem, Izzo is a master at this
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:48 am to HoopyD
Honestly, I don't know if there is a coach in the college game I'd least rather face after he has a week to watch our film and game plan.
Izzo v. Benford
I believe we have the raw talent advantage, while they have a huge advantage in coaching and experienced players.
I think we'll go up, but they're going to frustrate us with the zone, discipline, and hustle. We're going to get in foul trouble and they pull away at the end of the game because of all those reasons.
Izzo v. Benford
I believe we have the raw talent advantage, while they have a huge advantage in coaching and experienced players.
I think we'll go up, but they're going to frustrate us with the zone, discipline, and hustle. We're going to get in foul trouble and they pull away at the end of the game because of all those reasons.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:49 am to HoopyD
LSU wins a nail biter or it's Wisconsin in 2000 all over again.
I have 3 more days to convince myself on one or the other.
I have 3 more days to convince myself on one or the other.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:49 am to The Torch
Yeah coaching is the biggest disadvantage for us in this game
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:50 am to TheCaterpillar
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They always have experienced players and a mix of young talent, which always helps in the tournament.
That's not really the case this year. They only have 1 underclassman that averages more then 10 min/game. This is an experienced basketball team. One thing that I noticed looking at the box scores for their losses, they seemed to turn the ball over a ton in those losses. I think that's going to be key. If LSU can turn them over and get out in transition I like our chances.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:51 am to TheCaterpillar
IDK. They have the 8th best defensive efficiency in the country in their man to man. I doubt they change it, even if LSU has struggled against zone.
They've used zone for 5 possessions the entire year. If you aren't used to playing zone you normally don't play it well.
They've used zone for 5 possessions the entire year. If you aren't used to playing zone you normally don't play it well.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:52 am to HoopyD
I'm hoping Izzo loses his shite early in the game and gets ejected!
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:52 am to Clyde
We aren’t losing by 10+ to anyone unless it’s Oklahoma St after blowing a huge lead the game before in a somewhat meaningless tournament in November. This team refuses to quit. I’d almost feel better about our chances if we are trailing at half this game.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:53 am to HoopyD
I agree, LSU will have the physical advantage with both size and athleticism and needs to use it. We need to pound the rock inside constantly like the first half of both tourney games so far.
We need to play disciplined defensively. We love to gamble and go for steals and blocks, but Sparty, and Winston in particular, will make us pay if we get too aggressive.
We need to play disciplined defensively. We love to gamble and go for steals and blocks, but Sparty, and Winston in particular, will make us pay if we get too aggressive.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:55 am to DallasTiger45
They beat Florida by 4 and Maryland by 14 I think. Two common opponents.
One thing we know. They will be prepared for whatever LSU has to offer. In reality, talent will have to win out.
One thing we know. They will be prepared for whatever LSU has to offer. In reality, talent will have to win out.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:56 am to stapuffmarshy
Has anyone watched their first two games? Winston was hobbling pretty noticeably during the B1G tournament. Is he still hurt?
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:05 am to UpToPar
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That's not really the case this year. They only have 1 underclassman that averages more then 10 min/game. This is an experienced basketball team. One thing that I noticed looking at the box scores for their losses, they seemed to turn the ball over a ton in those losses. I think that's going to be key. If LSU can turn them over and get out in transition I like our chances.
I agree with all of this but the underclassman piece, unless I'm missing some injuries to the young guys (and maybe I am
) They are crazy experienced with Winston being their rock. Dude is nails and has excellent court vision. He is their court general.
Here are their contributing young guys:
Xavier Tillman (sophomore) averages 10/7/2 and 23 minutes per game. He also has the highest PER on their team (26.4). He was also their leading scorer against Minnesota with 14.
Aaron Henry (freshman) averages 6/4/1 and 21 minutes per game. He played 34 minutes against Minnesota, most on the team, and had 10/9/3 stat line.
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 10:10 am
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:09 am to TheCaterpillar
LSU's track record against really experienced teams is troubling.
Florida State - Up big and lose a tight one in the end.
Houston- Up big and lose a tight one in the end.
The rays of sunshine are those games were early in the season and Tennessee.
Florida State - Up big and lose a tight one in the end.
Houston- Up big and lose a tight one in the end.
The rays of sunshine are those games were early in the season and Tennessee.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:11 am to HoopyD
I suspect they will start in man and stay in man unless forced to play zone (like LSU did to Maryland). Their defense is always great
Tremendous rebounding team and always one of the most physical teams in the nation. This is a group that will be very similar to the Florida team LSU played this year (albeit much more efficient on offense)
Despite their physicality, LSU probably has more length overall. Their frontcourt is mostly composed of 6'7 - 6'8 guys. Ward (6'9) is their best inside player, but he's missed a lot of time this year due to injury and he hasn't played huge minutes thus far in the tournament.
Winston, like Waters, is their engine. Like Waters, he doesn't "look" like a tremendous athlete. However, he's a guy that can just flat get it done. On Sat. Minnesota had a great start to the second half and were cutting into the MSU lead until Winston went on a 9-0 run by himself. After that, Minn. never threatened again.
LSU is a team that is scary because they can overwhelm you with great athletes to go along with a savvy backcourt. When it all clicks LSU is very tough to stop because they have multiple guys who can beat you one on one. Mich. St. is easily the more disciplined team. While maybe not as athletic as the Dukes, UK's or even LSU's of the world, they know how to win and find ways to make big plays when they have to.
As we've seen all year, a focused LSU can beat ANYONE. But as we've also seen all year, this team is prone to stretches of inexplicably dumb basketball (Waters can giveth and Waters can taketh away).
At this point the only result that would surprise me is a blowout either way. I think we are in for another heart pounding finish. As my wife who watched her first LSU game this weekend said, "I don't see how you handle this. I don't even like basketball or LSU, and that was nerve racking!"
Tremendous rebounding team and always one of the most physical teams in the nation. This is a group that will be very similar to the Florida team LSU played this year (albeit much more efficient on offense)
Despite their physicality, LSU probably has more length overall. Their frontcourt is mostly composed of 6'7 - 6'8 guys. Ward (6'9) is their best inside player, but he's missed a lot of time this year due to injury and he hasn't played huge minutes thus far in the tournament.
Winston, like Waters, is their engine. Like Waters, he doesn't "look" like a tremendous athlete. However, he's a guy that can just flat get it done. On Sat. Minnesota had a great start to the second half and were cutting into the MSU lead until Winston went on a 9-0 run by himself. After that, Minn. never threatened again.
LSU is a team that is scary because they can overwhelm you with great athletes to go along with a savvy backcourt. When it all clicks LSU is very tough to stop because they have multiple guys who can beat you one on one. Mich. St. is easily the more disciplined team. While maybe not as athletic as the Dukes, UK's or even LSU's of the world, they know how to win and find ways to make big plays when they have to.
As we've seen all year, a focused LSU can beat ANYONE. But as we've also seen all year, this team is prone to stretches of inexplicably dumb basketball (Waters can giveth and Waters can taketh away).
At this point the only result that would surprise me is a blowout either way. I think we are in for another heart pounding finish. As my wife who watched her first LSU game this weekend said, "I don't see how you handle this. I don't even like basketball or LSU, and that was nerve racking!"
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:13 am to HoopyD
Well the obvious is that Taylor is going to guard Winston.
Izzo might be a man to man guy, but he would be a fool to not switch to 2-3 zone with about 12 min left to play.
We need Emmitt and Darrius to give us quality off the bench. One if not both the bigs are going to be in foul trouble.
FWIW, I would love to have the same crew we had for Yale game.
Izzo might be a man to man guy, but he would be a fool to not switch to 2-3 zone with about 12 min left to play.
We need Emmitt and Darrius to give us quality off the bench. One if not both the bigs are going to be in foul trouble.
FWIW, I would love to have the same crew we had for Yale game.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:15 am to PiscesTiger
Good thing is that Emmitt Wiliams and Darius Days will match up well with their bigs size wise.
They don't have the size that Maryland does, so we should be able to go "small" lineup and still match their "big" lineup.
Stopping Winston from having any easy baskets and drawing a ton of fouls is the name of the game. He needs to be blanketed.
They don't have the size that Maryland does, so we should be able to go "small" lineup and still match their "big" lineup.
Stopping Winston from having any easy baskets and drawing a ton of fouls is the name of the game. He needs to be blanketed.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:17 am to PiscesTiger
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Well the obvious is that Taylor is going to guard Winston.
Why is that obvious? That leaves Tremont on Mcquaid or Henry , who are both 6'5"
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