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re: Lessons learned from Ole Miss game

Posted on 10/22/13 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1895 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 10:29 pm to
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you just confirmed it


Confirmed what, that you are wrong?...yeah, I guess I did. Don't cherry pick the data I showed. Hill was also in during the first half when we didn't score. You have yet to show why him being on the sideline cost us any scoring opportunities. Just saying he's talented doesn't cut it.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16038 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 10:30 pm to
what was the other change that we made in the second half? oh yea, got away from the two tight end 1 wide out sets (believe it or not we ran quite a few of those) and stopped trying to pound the ball. We spread them out and ran and threw effectively. It probably would have been a bad idea to do that in the first half though, right?
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16038 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 10:33 pm to
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Hill was also in during the first half when we didn't score


He was also on the bench for a large portion of the first half, WHEN WE DIDN'T SCORE. That we didn't score being the important part combined with the part about him being on the bench. In the second half we did score and he was back in the game. See the correlation.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16643 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 10:33 pm to
It really comes down to this:
1) Is Hill a better back than our other RB's?
2) Did Hill miss PT because of a fumble?

IMO, if Les wants to apply such a policy, it needs to be extended to other opportunities, i.e., dropped passes, fumbled punts, fumbles by WRs, stupid ints, etc.
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1895 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 10:33 pm to
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what was the other change that we made in the second half? oh yea, got away from the two tight end 1 wide out sets (believe it or not we ran quite a few of those) and stopped trying to pound the ball. We spread them out and ran and threw effectively. It probably would have been a bad idea to do that in the first half though, right?


So are you now saying that we need Hill in the game to run something other than a 2 TE, I-formation?

I'm not going to argue with you anymore; I have to get to bed. I will close by saying I think there were much bigger problems with that game than whether or not Hill was on the field. The offense had good and bad plays with him in and good and bad plays with him out.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9054 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 10:35 pm to
If you think you can win the game with an extra 20 seconds then why let 1st,2nd,3rd, and 4th quarters expire without showing any sense of urgency? Slowdown the clock until you catch up and go ahead.
Posted by Gulffisherman
Bogalusa
Member since Oct 2009
3531 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 10:37 pm to
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IMO, if Les wants to apply such a policy, it needs to be extended to other opportunities, i.e., dropped passes, fumbled punts, fumbles by WRs, stupid ints, etc.


Makes to much sense, never happen
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9054 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 10:41 pm to
If you think you can win the game with an extra 20 seconds then why let 1st,2nd,3rd, and 4th quarters expire without showing any sense of urgency? Slowdown the clock until you catch up and go ahead.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16038 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 10:46 pm to
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So are you now saying that we need Hill in the game to run something other than a 2 TE, I-formation?



I don't care what we are running (hopefully not that ever again) he needs to be in the game

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The offense had good and bad plays with him in and good and bad plays with him out.


yes but it is always better to have more good plays than bad plays and HIll likes to make good plays

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I think there were much bigger problems with that game than whether or not Hill was on the field


There were a lot of problems but we still only lost by 3 points and HIll is worth 3 points
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16038 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 10:48 pm to
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it needs to be extended to other opportunities, i.e., dropped passes, fumbled punts, fumbles by WRs, stupid ints, etc.


true, we need integrity more than we need wins so if a receiver (OBJ) drops a pass he should be benched for almost a half. May not ever win any games but at least we will have integrity.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76794 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 10:54 pm to
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IMO, if Les wants to apply such a policy, it needs to be extended to other opportunities, i.e., dropped passes, fumbled punts, fumbles by WRs, stupid ints, etc.


Sadly, Les isn't all-the-way stupid enough to lose his job.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 11:00 pm to
Let's not look over the fact that LSU hasn't shown the ability to stop anyone when they need to over the course of this season.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16643 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 11:04 pm to
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Let's not look over the fact that LSU hasn't shown the ability to stop anyone when they need to over the course of this season.


This could be extended into '12 as well. IMO, this is THE problem with Chavis.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76794 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 11:04 pm to
It was only 10-0 at the half. The ZERO part of that against that OM defense is a disgrace, but the lack of emotion or sense of urgency by the team in that game is sadly no surprise.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24781 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 11:09 pm to
Lessons Learned:

1.Third and Chavis is now a trend
2.Miles is retarded for sitting Hill
3.We play with no swagger
4.Chicken Bowl or car products bowl bound
Posted by tiger4178
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1211 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 11:19 pm to
Losing to Ole Piss transforms me into a raging alcoholic. Unable to handle the reality of what had just happened, I drank vodka (with juice at first) until I passed out in a stupor.

Sunday afternoon, still in a drunken stupor, realizing tSaint's weren't playing to provide some uplift, started on a bottle of Crown until once again in a stupor state.

frick losing to Ole Piss, my liver won't survive many more of those....


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