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re: Les Miles still can't Coach?
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:38 pm to dukke v
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:38 pm to dukke v
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They want a NC every year... which will not happen... the worst thing to happen to young LSU fans was the 2003 NC.... they have become the worst fan base in the country since that year....
It is not a realistic expectation. What Saban has accomplished and what he is doin at the moment is not 'normal'
The most successful coaches in every sport can tell you its absolutely ridiculous to think you can do it every year. Look at UCONN WBB team, geno had admitted countless times that what they did was not normal at all and should never really happen.
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 2:09 pm to ReelTiger1
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So explain to me dumbass...how does my opinion which is shared with thousands of fans and the university...that Miles was a dumbass and needed to be fired. Have anything to do with my birth place and or edcuation
This post pretty much demonstrates your lack of education and knowledge about football.
It was time for Miles to go but that doesn’t invalidate what he did over 11 years. To say that he wasn’t successful is just false.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 9:17 am to Thomas Williams
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Why does no one else in college football want to hire Les Miles? Could it be that Les Miles can't Coach?
Remember all the arguments inside of LSU football over Les Miles ability as a coach. The Les Miles supporters kept saying he's a wonderful coach, who had a wonderful record. So now that the rest of the NCAA college football world has a chance to also hire Les Miles, no one wants him?
How do you guys get through life with no ability to see some middle ground. Everything is black or white to you guys.
1. Miles is old
2. Miles is getting paid a lot of money. He'd need to get a really big job to make it worth his while to coach.
3. The number of jobs that Miles would take is probably very, very low
4. His performance running a program was elite
5. In particular, his ability to hire recruiters, contribute to recruiting, and build a sense of family within the program was top notch
6. He's done this over a long period of time.
and...
5. Miles isn't a great communicator.
6. He's not a coordinator type and will require two top coordinators
7. His philosophy on offense is on the extreme edge of conservative
8. He's been known to be extremely rigid with his philosophy.
9. There's been more than a few gameday coaching mistakes
Bottom line, Miles can coach. He is elite at running/building a program. He's not perfect as a coach, and will get in his own way at times. His age is a major factor is getting value out of Miles. I don't think he'll get another job offer, nor does he want one.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 9:34 am to moneyg
For a few years I have said that Miles was coasting, the energy did not seem to be there.
I am slightly older than him and trust me, the energy leaves you.
Other schools know this as well.
Most schools would like someone 35-55 as their preferred age range and likely 40-55
I am slightly older than him and trust me, the energy leaves you.
Other schools know this as well.
Most schools would like someone 35-55 as their preferred age range and likely 40-55
Posted on 11/26/17 at 9:35 am to moneyg
For a few years I have said that Miles was coasting, the energy did not seem to be there.
I am slightly older than him and trust me, the energy leaves you.
Other schools know this as well.
Most schools would like someone 35-55 as their preferred age range and likely 40-55.
Pair that with the new styles, etc.
Cholly Mac all over again.
I am slightly older than him and trust me, the energy leaves you.
Other schools know this as well.
Most schools would like someone 35-55 as their preferred age range and likely 40-55.
Pair that with the new styles, etc.
Cholly Mac all over again.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 9:36 am to cbtullis
Shut up dad!
Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:00 am to Tigerbait357
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It is not a realistic expectation. What Saban has accomplished and what he is doin at the moment is not 'normal' The most successful coaches in every sport can tell you its absolutely ridiculous to think you can do it every year. Look at UCONN WBB team, geno had admitted countless times that what they did was not normal at all and should never really happen.
All of this is correct. However, Miles did less with more. He NEVER tried to create mismatches, or take advantage of weakness. He lined up and ran the ball. Period. That is not coaching. We had the best WR combo in the country with Landry, and OBJ, we could have been 75% pass, and not a single college team could have matched up with those guys. Miles is a clown.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:05 am to moneyg
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How do you guys get through life with no ability to see some middle ground. Everything is black or white to you guys. 1. Miles is old 2. Miles is getting paid a lot of money. He'd need to get a really big job to make it worth his while to coach. 3. The number of jobs that Miles would take is probably very, very low 4. His performance running a program was elite 5. In particular, his ability to hire recruiters, contribute to recruiting, and build a sense of family within the program was top notch 6. He's done this over a long period of time. and... 5. Miles isn't a great communicator. 6. He's not a coordinator type and will require two top coordinators 7. His philosophy on offense is on the extreme edge of conservative 8. He's been known to be extremely rigid with his philosophy. 9. There's been more than a few gameday coaching mistakes Bottom line, Miles can coach. He is elite at running/building a program. He's not perfect as a coach, and will get in his own way at times. His age is a major factor is getting value out of Miles. I don't think he'll get another job offer, nor does he want one.
I see more negatives then positives.
also, Miles didn't build a damn thing at LSU.
If you think Miles could have come in here before Saban and won like he did, you don't have a clue.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:06 am to Thomas Williams
You realize how much he’s getting paid by LSU not to coach? I wouldn’t coach either if I was making how much he’s making
Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:09 am to Biggmatt78
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You realize how much he’s getting paid by LSU not to coach? I wouldn’t coach either if I was making how much he’s making
This is true, however, Miles has made it known on many occasions that he wants to coach.
His name would be out in the public if he was truly wanted.
The fact is he is a clown, and no AD worth his salt wants to touch him.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:35 am to H-Town Tiger
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that doesn’t invalidate what he did over 11 years. To say that he wasn’t successful is just false.
He gets credit for recruiting, he gets credit for good DC, but for the most part they won in spite of Miles not because of Miles. I almost never felt like we out coached the other team.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:50 am to cj2002
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We had the best WR combo in the country with Landry, and OBJ, we could have been 75% pass, and not a single college team could have matched up with those guys. Miles is a clown.
Do you know anything about football? Washington State doesn’t even throw it 75% of the time. Also did you watch the Georgia game that year? We scored 41 and lost. OBJ and Landry were great and the offense could have been more open but they were also weren’t infallible. OBJ had a critical fumble vs UGA that arguably cost us the game as well as one vs Florida the year before. This idea that we were so loaded we should never have lost has gotten out of hand. Miles certainly underachieved post 2012 but his best rosters, the ones with the most talent won a lot and did in fact bring home some hardware.
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If you think Miles could have come in here before Saban and won like he did, you don't have a clue.
Maybe not but it’s completely irrelevant. This just in Saban is a better coach (something people conveniently forget when blaming Miles for other things but I digress). However Oklahoma State has 11 losing seasons the 12 years before Miles was hired. In 4 years there he had 3 winning seasons including 9 wins in year 3. So he did a turnaround as well.
It was time for Miles to go and I understand and share many of the frustrations with him over the years but if you think he couldn’t coach or was unsuccessful then you are the clown.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:59 am to H-Town Tiger
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What an incredibly stupid thing to say. Did you just start watching LSU in 2015? The first year of the AP poll was 1936. In the history of the AP poll LSU has 9 top 5 finishes, Les Miles has 3 of those in addition to 3 other top 10 finishes. In what universe is that no successful?
I believe most people don't express well what they are thinking.
I believe they are trying to say Miles was a horrible game day coach, bad with x and o's. Didn't out coach other coaches, won because of better talent, and when the other team had better talent we didn't win most of those games. That's not even getting into calling a timeout after change of position. Then you get into clock management.
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 11:26 am
Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:25 am to H-Town Tiger
The OBJ and Landry year we lead the country in 3rd down conversions, but that was because we ran on 1st and 2nd. Guess what, everyone knew we were throwing on 3rd and we still lead the country. None of us knew how good those guys really are till we saw them in the NFL. However, Miles saw them everyday in practice. 75% wasn't a hard number for every single game, but to quote the WV coach."When you get in the game you have to CALL PLAYS THAT WORK". Miles seem to keep calling plays that didn't work, see the NCG in 11 season.
Miles coming after Saban was relevant, because it was made in reply to Miles building the program.
In reply to OK state.
Miles went to 3 bowl games out of 4 years. Didn't even make a bowl game 1 year.
Of those 3 bowl games, HE WON 1.
So yeah he is a clown.
Miles coming after Saban was relevant, because it was made in reply to Miles building the program.
In reply to OK state.
Miles went to 3 bowl games out of 4 years. Didn't even make a bowl game 1 year.
Of those 3 bowl games, HE WON 1.
So yeah he is a clown.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:30 am to H-Town Tiger
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Les Miles is the most accomplished coach in school history.
Only because he followed the best coach in COLLEGE FOOTBALL HISTORY.
You would hear his name in the top 2 or 3 for most of all these coaching jobs if he was as good as you try to make him out to be.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 9:04 pm to ReelTiger1
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Because the man didn't do a fricking thing for LSU.
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