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re: Les Miles quote on the ineffectiveness of the running game

Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:12 pm to
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:12 pm to
Meaning there will be no hole........Miles is so smart some of you idiots can't even understand him when he gets articulate.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465690 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:13 pm to
our interior OL did suck badly at run blocking last game
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12988 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:13 pm to
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Miles is so smart some of you idiots can't even understand him when he gets articulate.


Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23241 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:15 pm to
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our interior OL did suck badly at run blocking last game


Well I just rewatched the game, and after the 1st series, everytime we where in the I they stacked 8 or 9 in the box.....

Essentially Washington's game plan was to stop the run and force us to beat them throwing just like every other squad last year, the lack of offensive plays (44) didn't allow us to adjust until the middle of the 3rd quarter.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23241 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:16 pm to
It isn't funny Wilceaux, you wanted to chastize Miles for stating something you thought was dumb, when if you would have took 20 seconds to digest what he meant you would have understood him.....

All running backs want to meet air when they are running, that means they aren't being touched.
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
10216 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:19 pm to
So you guys like to quit early if the going get tough? You have to be 100% certain that that type of offense won't work before you try another, otherwise you will be showing all of your hand early.

As for miles studying Washington. What is there to study. They had a complete overhaul. If it was the same coaching staff, maybe just maybe i can see him feeling the need to study. Heck, Polk and Locker weren't even there at the time, how do you study something like that, in fact if you listen to what the announcer say, Locker lost 15 more lbs, making him even faster.

Now as for them studying us, same coaching staff and it worked for them for the first half, we pushed us then we push them back. Not as hard as we could have but all of those players are learning also.

You can practice as much as you want, but until you get to use what you pratice, it's a moot point.
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:19 pm to
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What do you know about JJ's comfort level right now? I can tell you HE IS comfortable. He may have been THE most composed out there.


This sounds like something JJ's mom would say at booster club meeting.
Gees dude, lighten up.
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:21 pm to
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All running backs want to meet air when they are running, that means they aren't being touched.


thanks for spelling that out for some of these tards.. I know there are those here that dont have the first fuking clue what LM meant by it.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:28 pm to
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So you guys like to quit early if the going get tough?
WTF? Not sure where you're getting this. In fact quite the opposite. Open the playbook, let 'er rip...what happened to dat?

quote:

You have to be 100% certain that that type of offense won't work before you try another, otherwise you will be showing all of your hand early.
Not handing off the ball every play doesn't require changing an offense.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12988 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:30 pm to
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It isn't funny Wilceaux,




quote:

when if you would have took 20 seconds to digest what he meant you would have understood him.....



Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:33 pm to
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we pushed us then we push them back



That's about how confusing what took place really was.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:40 pm to
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"I think there is a point in time where the defense moves up, and you have to throw it. Otherwise, it doesn’t matter how many runs you run, you’re not going to meet air. I think that’s more or less the issue. To me, it also speaks to the last drive. On the last drive, we knew exactly what we wanted to do, and we went right down the field. I think the issue becomes that we need to get to that drive earlier in the game. To answer the question more fully, that would get some of the folks stuck in the box out of the box and would allow us to have some of those runs that we’d like to have with Charles Scott.” - Les Miles


I want to believe him, but nothing will likely change for vandy.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:41 pm to
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Miles is using coachspeak and not trying to throw players under the bus. Miles also said this


why is it always reading between the lines with your posts?

we get it, you don't think jefferson is smart.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23241 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:41 pm to
It's a defense mechanism my man......I understand people laugh when they realize they are dumb.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:42 pm to
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miles should have just thrown air balls to your receivers all night against our midgets.


miles is not a fan of reason.

he is going to do it his way, smart or not.
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4503 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 7:52 pm to
Miles complains about the lack of plays in the game. If he had opened the offense up a little more, there probably would've been less 3 and outs and more plays for the offense. More plays equals more points. More points means a larger margin of victory, less time for the opponents offense on the field, and allows Russell Shepard to play and everyone is happy!

I understand that this is a bit idealistic, but I have faith in my tigers.
Posted by Terry the Tiger
Cypress, Texas
Member since Jul 2009
3494 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 8:02 pm to
I learned long ago that criticizing a coaching staffs' decisions early in the season is a waste of time. Remember, it is all part of a "process".

Why did we run the ball up the middle repeatedly with no success? Are our coaches conservative or stubborn? Are our coaches trying the protect an inexperienced QB in a hostile stadium? Are our coaches trying to evaluate if our new center and left guard can create running room for Scott?
Are our coaches trying to determine if we are able to run up the middle in a single-back formation without a fullback?

No one on this board knows all of the answers, but we all like to think we do. Maybe the coaches thought we would win this game easier and wanted to try to figure some things out for later on in the season. Maybe it took them 3-4 drives to see what they wanted to see.

We all can admit that we expected the Tigers to win by a larger margin and look a lot better doing so. But a win is a win. Survive, and advance. Play them one game at a time. There is always next week. Now get Vandy and prove the doubters wrong (at least for this week).
Posted by aibo synthetic
into bolivian
Member since Nov 2007
3412 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 8:02 pm to
to be fair, there were several times where Jefferson took off at the sound of footsteps in the pocket. Who knows, maybe the play call was to air it out, but either the protection wasn't good, or Jefferson had happy feet, and we never got to see the play develop.
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4503 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 8:04 pm to
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Maybe the coaches thought we would win this game easier and wanted to try to figure some things out for later on in the season.
I think this is very true. HOWEVER, when you find yourself in a situation that you were not anticipating, you ADJUST! That's what good coaches do.
Posted by augustbengal
shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
1324 posts
Posted on 9/9/09 at 8:06 pm to
He basically gave the same reasons for not playing Shep. Obviously after a disastrous year last year with a young quarterback, he doesn't want to make the same mistakes with his young quarterbacks.

He admitted that it wasn't what he wanted out of his offense. He took the middle ground. He could've aired it out against the "midget" secondary with horrible results. On the other hand, it could've been brilliant. Guess he wasn't such the mad hatter this time.

Maybe that was a good thing.
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