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re: Les Miles never cratered like Jimbo Fisher
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:43 am to atltiger6487
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:43 am to atltiger6487
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I agree Jimbo lost his edge -- at Florida State.
I think a change of scenery will invigorate him.
For a year or two, then A$M is stuck with an unbelievable payout.
They created a contract to where Jimbo benefits by tanking it a few years down the road
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
The funny thing is that they are excited about this mainly because it gives them internet points to troll lsu fans. That's how desperate these people have gotten to get a win over lsu.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:46 am to TigerDM
quote:LOL. Somebody missed 2005 postseason.
Matt Flynn's major improvement came under Crowton.
Flynn was reared by Jimbo.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:58 am to BeeFense5
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The funny thing is that they are excited about this mainly because it gives them internet points to troll lsu fans. That's how desperate these people have gotten to get a win over lsu.
These are people who only understand instant gratification
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:46 pm to Scoob
Terrific post Scoob.
I tried to warn people last year that Fisher is just another good coach at best and at least 25 coaches couldve won a ton of games at Fla St given the scenario he was handed.
Jimbo was never the answer for LSU.
He won when he had Winston and both Florida and Miami were struggling. This gave him 2 wins a season and a recruiting edge in his home state, which is arguably the best in the land. He took over for Bobby Bowden and was handed a gold mine.
He also coached in the easiest P5 conference at the time and was a double digit favorite in almost every game. But yet he was going to come into the SEC west and beat Saban, somehow.
Even with all these built in advantages especially the recruiting edge, he still let Clemson and arguably a couple of basketball schools catch up.
6th is the ACC Atlantic... Fla St!! Thats beyond comprehension for a $7.5 million dollar coach at Fla st and in the ACC.
Make any excuse you want for him, he was not and is not the answer at LSU. Being far away from Bama and another great recruiting state, Texas, gives him and many others a chance to build something. But he wasnt going to get it done at LSU.
I tried to warn people last year that Fisher is just another good coach at best and at least 25 coaches couldve won a ton of games at Fla St given the scenario he was handed.
Jimbo was never the answer for LSU.
He won when he had Winston and both Florida and Miami were struggling. This gave him 2 wins a season and a recruiting edge in his home state, which is arguably the best in the land. He took over for Bobby Bowden and was handed a gold mine.
He also coached in the easiest P5 conference at the time and was a double digit favorite in almost every game. But yet he was going to come into the SEC west and beat Saban, somehow.
Even with all these built in advantages especially the recruiting edge, he still let Clemson and arguably a couple of basketball schools catch up.
6th is the ACC Atlantic... Fla St!! Thats beyond comprehension for a $7.5 million dollar coach at Fla st and in the ACC.
Make any excuse you want for him, he was not and is not the answer at LSU. Being far away from Bama and another great recruiting state, Texas, gives him and many others a chance to build something. But he wasnt going to get it done at LSU.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 1:02 pm to Scoob
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A 9-3 season is seen as a success because he exceeded his potential basement by quite a bit.
Do you really think LSU fans consider 9-3 a successful season? Going 9-3 AFTER getting blown out by MSU and losing at home to Troy to fall to 3-2 is not the same as considering 9-3 a success before the season starts.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 1:47 pm to LSU82BILL
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Do you really think LSU fans consider 9-3 a successful season?
What? His point is correct.That the bar has been lowered for many in here for the HC at LSU since the change.
Obviously, he doesnt think 9-3 is worth paying 2 coaches for and embarrassing the school with the way it was handled.
That LSU already had a 9 win coach even without a QB, was the point of his post. You clearly missed it. SMH
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 12/4/17 at 1:49 pm to FlatLakeTiger
Jimbo made Marcus Randall an nfl player. Do you think Miles could have done that?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:00 pm to baobabtiger
Yeah, but Marcus Randall did not play quarterback in the NFL.
He was drafted to play defense.
He was drafted to play defense.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:18 pm to LosTigres25
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That was the point of his post. You clearly missed it.
And you missed the point of MY post. I don't give a shite about how many coaches are on the payroll. When he says "A 9-3 season is seen as a success", it needs to be put in context. Was it seen as a success before the season started? No. Was it seen as a success after falling to 3-2. I believe it should be - especially considering the amount of young player that we relied on.
Do you think LSU, FSU, Florida, UCF and Miami would have considered 9-3 a successful season in August. I'll bet you UCF and Miami would have say YES and LSU, UF and FSU would say NO. Ask the same question to all 5 programs on Week 7 when Miami and UCF are 4-0, FSU drops to 1-3 and LSU beats Florida to go 4-2 and drops the Gators to 3-2. A this point the 2 teams that probably considered 9-3 a success 5 weeks earlier would be disappointed with a 9-3 finish while UF, FSU and LSU would be happy with it.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:20 pm to FlatLakeTiger
Les was fired right before his inevitable collapse. He was on the way to a 6/6 season until he got the ax.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:38 pm to Mayhawman
Flynn played pretty good in the bowl game, but he was much more a running QB. I was talking about his greatly improved passing came under Crowton
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:56 pm to FlatLakeTiger
Say what you want about Jimbo but what he did this season was miraculous.
Nobody else could have ever done it.
He had a losing record 5-6 overall and 3-5 in his conference.
His biggest win was either a 7-point win over Duke or a 7-point win over Wake Forest.
He lost by 32 points to Boston College just a little over a month ago.
And became the second highest paid coach in college football.
That is fricking AMAZING. Aggies gonna Aggy.
Nobody else could have ever done it.
He had a losing record 5-6 overall and 3-5 in his conference.
His biggest win was either a 7-point win over Duke or a 7-point win over Wake Forest.
He lost by 32 points to Boston College just a little over a month ago.
And became the second highest paid coach in college football.
That is fricking AMAZING. Aggies gonna Aggy.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:02 pm to FlatLakeTiger
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Florida is the BEST recruiting area of the country. It's better than TX and better than CA.
The locals and admins must have been fed up with him flirting with LSU every season. Plus, look at the coaches now in the state of Florida. Jimbo might be played out with the HS coaches.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:02 pm to atltiger6487
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Jimbo lost his edge at FlaState
Jimblow went Jimbust this year
Posted on 12/4/17 at 5:59 pm to LSU82BILL
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And you missed the point of MY post. I don't give a shite about how many coaches are on the payroll. When he says "A 9-3 season is seen as a success", it needs to be put in context.
No I didnt miss your post or your point. And who gives a crap if you give a shite about how many are on the payroll? Who the hell are you?
And no, it doesnt need to be put in context. 9-3 is 9-3.
You were responding to his post and even quoted him. You didnt start your own post with your own context for the season.
Obviously, finishing 9-3 after being out of the playoffs, in September for the first time in recent memory, is a strong close even if they didnt play anyone worth a shite except for Auburn and the Gumps. No one is taking that away from the team or the staff. 6-1 is 6-1.
But at LSU that used to not be good enough to get any love in here. It was win the west and beat Bama or it was just another wasted season with more NFL talent than most.
Now these "Put it in context" types of post like yours are in here every day.
Why do we now make excuses?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 6:06 pm to FlatLakeTiger
2008 for Les was basically as bad as this year for Jimbo
Posted on 12/4/17 at 6:08 pm to salford227
quote:Jimbo was burnt out at FSU. I think a move will be exactly what he needed and he will kill it at A&M
I think Jimbobis burnt out. I can’t say I blame him. Add 75 Million guaranteed, what motivation does he have.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 6:26 pm to LSU0358
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Jimbo had a single season with 2 losses or less without Jameis at QB. Other than that, 3 to 4 losses was the norm. Does that sound like its worth $7.5MM/yr?
I see what you're getting at, but you can't ignore back-to-back undefeated regular seasons with an NC win against an SEC team included no matter who the QB is. Petrino has a phenomenal Heisman-winning QB...they have 8 losses in the last two years. Dabo Sweeney never went undefeated with DeShaun Watson who was a phenomenal talent. Both coaches were in the same conference as Jimbo. In the 2nd undefeated regular season, they won against Clemson (who finished in the top 15) with a backup QB because Old Crab Leg was suspended.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:12 pm to LosTigres25
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But at LSU that used to not be good enough to get any love in here. It was win the west and beat Bama or it was just another wasted season with more NFL talent than most.
Yeah, well that's only happened twice for LSU in the 11 years since Saban arrived in Tuscaloosa so 8 of the 10 previous years weren't much different than this year.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 6:42 pm
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