re: Les Miles needs to crank up the intensity....

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While Saban is a great coach, so are a handful of others that would find Baton Rouge a good opportunity.

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I agree, but the problem is identifying those guys. The ones who are proven probably aren't leaving the jobs they currently have. So you have to be a tremendous evaluator of coaching talent and take a gamble on somebody. That's how we got Saban when he wasn't a huge name. It's going to take extreme competence by the LSU administration to find the right coach, no matter when Miles leaves. But it's not as easy as just throwing money at a great, proven coach. 'Cause most of them aren't leaving where they're at.



eta--and as great as they may potentially be, the Brian Kellys and Chris Peterson's of the coaching world are still unproven on the big stage of having to compete week-in and week-out with teams of similar talent

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Only 9 wins in '11 though, I think gets him fired.

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The power of the ring cannot and should not be underestimated.

Title buys you at least 3 losing seasons and heck Miles had only 1 average and 1 decent season.

For good or bad - he won't be forced out and regardless of record it will be Miles' decision alone for 2011 and if it comes to that I can't see him saying No.

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Almost everything about Miles, his coaching, his luck, hiring has been hashed, rehashed and remixed with new artists.

And yet, he's still a one hit wonder.

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Putting aside arguing about the veracity of the one-liner you posted, your reply was a logical non-sequitur to what I had posted.

I was replying to the sentiment that the the OP's post was an in depth new line of argument. Hence I said it was rehashed and was not anything great.

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I hope you're right.

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me too

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112th ranking in offense.

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That stat gets thrown around way too much on here, and to me, it's a bit disingenious. First of all, all D-I teams don't play similar schedules. There are plenty of WAC, MWC, and hell, even Big 12 and Pac 10 teams above us who only played each other and/or much inferior defenses than the SEC ones. Also, how long your defense is on the field plays a part in how many total offensive yards you allot, among other things. Whatever, though. Our offense was bad--really bad. I saw it, you saw it, we all saw it. I don't need "112!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" shoved in my face 100+ times a day to tell me that. At this point, I think it's just a lazy criticism.



But I thought Crowton sucked last year something fierce. I thought his playcalling all season was horrible, especially in crucial situations. I would have literally fought him after the 2-straight fade "attempts" to tie the game at Ole Miss. I thought he had a terrible plan going into both the season and individual games, and showed very little ability/willingness to adjust in either. I also thought he should have been shite-canned after the season. However...


I don't think that just because Crowton--and our entire offense--laid an egg last year necessarily means that he--and we--are somehow destined to eternal failure. I just think that's bad logic considering he--and we--have had success, and as recently as only 2 years ago. I think having a JR QB is going to make a huge difference. I also think what Gonzalez can bring as far as philosophies/strategies/personnel usage/game-planning can make a big impact. But mainly I think both Miles and Crowton realize how disgusted LSU fans are/were with the offense, so I do think they will have "the want" to make significant changes, and will be extremely motivated.


If none of that happens, though, or if it's still not enough to get us to 9/10 wins, then I think they both will likely being carrying their asses.

I hope I am wrong, but Les is not sharp enough to get the job done. He runs a loose operation which leads to undisciplind football teams. Anybody can recruit with our facilities. He will continue to make the same mistakes over and over again, just like the clock management fiasco at OLe Miss followed by the same poor clock management in the Cap 1 bowl. Great person average coach = he's done after 2010.

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There was a tremendously huge mistake made investment wise for the program, but we will take the hit at the right time, don't worry about that.

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So - assuming you think the ship is sinking - you expect me to believe the "right time" is to wait another year?

That's absurd.

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but Les is not sharp enough to get the job done. He runs a loose operation which leads to undisciplind football teams.

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His operation is not loose. It has been said many times, he is not a control freak coach. He expexts his coaches to coach and get the most from their players. Basically do their job. He just beleives in coaches and/or players and openly trusts them. I dont think he has learned how to effectively get the most from his staff, be a personable boss and still make the hard deceisions that are best for the program that he is responsible for.

He also does not run an undisciplined team. That is completely inaccurate.

It is another known fact that he has good kids and all the kids perform as well as they are coached. These kids are not in the paper doing something stupid or causing trouble. In fact the last one i recall that was in the paper regularly was dismissed from the team.

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It will take guts by Alleva and a great sales job by he and Lombardi to bring in a coach of a high caliber

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Like the football coaches he hired at Duke. As Skip says, the secret to success is you have to teach fundamentals constantly. Basic fundamentals are not being stressed by some of the assistant coaches and it shows in the product on the field. Saban and his assistants stress the little details and it shows on the field. If you take care of the little things, the big things will take care of themselves. Miles needs to get back to basics and stay there.

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Some of the Miles supporters on here that believe Miles can beat Saban are the same delusional tards that believe Miles won the 2007 title with his Miles's players.

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If LSU doesn't have their QB hurt and a rediculous call by the refs, Tennessee's field goal kicker doesn't have an injury so he's not able to get any elevation on his kicks, and Texas's QB does not get hurt, they probably loose all three of those games. Especially after those retarted calls he made to start the BSCNC game. Stars aligned for Saban this year, that does not make him some type of dominator.
On top of that, Florida's practice week and locker room were in complete chaos the week before the SECCG with Myer's health and all of the coaching defections. And no, I'm not going to get into the source thing on this one.