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re: Leonard Fournette is the next Trent Richardson
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:32 pm to WilliamTaylor21
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:32 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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love how people are labeling Leonard as a bust. He got hurt week 1 and it lingered all season. The games when he was remotely healthy he had over 100 yards from scrimmage. And he had 1,500 yards from scrimmage as a rookie.
Not to mention the disaster that is the Jags QB/OL/WRs. Which one are you going to focus on stopping if you are the opposing DC:
(a.) Leonard Fournette
(b.) Blake Bortles ?
As a rookie last year he had 1000 yards while splitting carries and having no passing attack to back defenders off. People labeling him a bust should just be ignored in any future discussion about football.
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:32 pm to 5Alive
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5Alive
you feeling ok with Leonard's career trajectory and how he has been conducting himself?
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:32 pm to CDawson
Well organizations never lie.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:32 pm to CDawson
A shitty origination left and right. They can say whatever they want. This organization also seems to think Jalen Ramsey is “professional” if that says anything.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:33 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Vision may not be his strong suit as he has almost always had a fb to follow but it isnt bad.
Yes it is Rickky. His vision is what is holding him back... He is a straight up runner and if there is NO hole he will fall.............
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:34 pm to SkintBack
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I wanted to downvote, but let's look at Derrick Henry and Leonard Fournette. I thought Henry would be the bust by now. Guess I was wrong.
Henry: 47 games, 2293 yards, 22 TDs
Fournette: 21 games, 1479 yards, 14 TDs
You are wrong again.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:35 pm to dukke v
The Jacksonville Jaguars are what’s holding him back...
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:35 pm to LNCHBOX
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Well organizations never lie.
I love LF7 but you can spin it any way you want. Teams do not find ways to release top picks and take on the hassle of fighting over guaranteed contracts without something happening.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:36 pm to CDawson
Again, you know that how?
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:37 pm to TheTexasTiger7
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Most people who don’t understand football think Fournette is a bust, and call out LSU greats because their lives suck.
Here is your problem... You have an LSU BIAS.......
I care about LSU players when they play for LSU.... What they do after doesn't bother me... Bottom line is at the PRO level, LF is just not that good unless he gets behind a decent o-line and a better system.. He still has a vision problem as far as finding another way to go.. He is great if you get him to the 2nd level, But getting him there is the key............
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:37 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Well rickydude, you're no scout for sure
NFL . Com
It's always been his weakness.
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Some scouts have expressed concerns about Fournette's punishing running style. He rarely gives tacklers a free pass, which opens him up to punishment he doesn't have to take. Fournette's power and speed are more than enough to help create high-end yardage totals for himself, but he can still improve with better vision and footwork when wading through the murk between the tackles. While Fournette has improved as a third-down option, he still has some work to do as a receiver and pass protector.
NFL . Com
It's always been his weakness.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:38 pm to Lester Earl
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you feeling ok with Leonard's career trajectory and how he has been conducting himself?
Looking at it objectively, he obviously needs to sort out some personal things. I don't think that happens until he has a change of scenery. If he's able to take a step back and mature a bit I don't see any reason he can't have a productive career. Players go through adversity and grow up sometimes. Hoping for the best for him.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:38 pm to CDawson
Agreed, Leonard might not have drawn the best lot in the draft, but his team is in serious need of leadership and his response has been horrible.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:38 pm to dukke v
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Yes it is Rickky. His vision is what is holding him back... He is a straight up runner and if there is NO hole he will fall.............
Based on what?
All the all 22 game tape youve viewed?
All the all 22 game tape yoive viewed while also knowing the play call?
Or is the tv broadcast where you had a bird's eye view of the previous play and thought you saw a cutback lane?
Just stop. No one that gets paid to evaluate talent thinks his vision is garbage.
The lack of any pass threat and unhealthy olinemen is what held him back this year.the holes that were there last year when he finished 8th in the league in rushing werent there this year.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:39 pm to dukke v
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Yes it is Rickky. His vision is what is holding him back... He is a straight up runner and if there is NO hole he will fall.............
Correct. He's a brute, but lacks the vision and finesse.
Once he breaks the LoS he's a beast though
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:42 pm to dukke v
My friend, of course I have an LSU bias. Why wouldn’t I? Why do you just stop caring for players when they make it to the league. Be honest. Tell me what NFL rb would succeed on the Jags right now? The answer is NO ONE. You think Gurley, Barkley, Kamara, Mcaffery, etc. would perform the way they do on the Jags? Of course not. Like I said they have Blake Bortles. Their WR corps is the worst in the league, and so is their offensive line. Jacksonville and Buffalo are the worst spots to be right now if you’re a RB. If we put him on a good team with a competent coaching staff he would perform extremely well, and all of these “hot takes” would look retarded. Look what he did last year, when they actually could somewhat play football in Jacksonville. You can look at it anyway you want. Remember when Jared Goff played under Jeff Fisher with horrible weapons his rookie season? He was horrible and labeled a bust. Switch Patrick Mahomes and Sam Darnold right now. Would Mahomes put up the ridiculous numbers he has? Would Darnold be as bad? No. You have to take into account all of these things man, instead of looking at basic things.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Well "troy is more talented than lsu"
I can post many saying its a strength.
And as i said, i dont think think his vision is a strength but its not bad.
In no way did the one you post say his vision was bad.
I can post many saying its a strength.
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Strengths:
Explosive
Elusive; has moves in the open field to dodge blockers
Fast; can break off long touchdown runs
Threat to score on any carry
Rare acceleration
Great balance
Tough, physical runner
Power back who can run over defenders
Vicious stiff-arm
Excellent vision
Great feet
Cutting ability
Has returned kicks
Ideal build and size
Gets lots of yards after contact
Finishes runs well
Ideal build and size
Burst to the hole
Has great straight-line speed to pull away from defenders
And as i said, i dont think think his vision is a strength but its not bad.
In no way did the one you post say his vision was bad.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Yeah he never jukes jukes anyone.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:44 pm to LNCHBOX
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Again, you know that how?
History and empirical evidence. Name another top 4 pick with a voided contract less than two years after signing.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:44 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Based on what? All the all 22 game tape youve viewed? All the all 22 game tape yoive viewed while also knowing the play call?
Im sorry... You have access to this?????????????
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No one that gets paid to evaluate talent thinks his vision is garbage.
OK. Please tell me what TV people have said his vision is that good..............
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The lack of any pass threat and unhealthy olinemen is what held him back this year.the holes that were there last year when he finished 8th in the league in rushing werent there this year.
While I agree with this... it doesn't mean he is as polished as he could be...............
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