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re: Lee is fine for the title game
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:36 pm to ellessuuuu
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:36 pm to ellessuuuu
quote:Are you certain he has several reads to make? Maybe the plays call for one or two reads. Several times, he's made a read, and if the receiver was covered, he'd pull it down instead of trying to force something that isn't there.
patience would be to stay in the pocket and go through a progression of reads
Regardless of whether you agree or disagree, Miles believes JJ gives us the best chance at winning. That's all that matters.
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:37 pm to ellessuuuu
A few questions then I'll hang up: What would Lee have done differently during GA? Keep in mind he was dependent on the run all year as well.
Can we just not agree that we have 2 mediocre/average quarterbacks and one can run the ball and one can't?
If roles were reversed, where JJ got the early season slate putting up exactly the same number, and was pulled for a returning Lee, would we be having this debate?
Why do we not bitch as much about Ware losing his position despite being undefeated when he lost it, and him doing nothing "wrong"?
And the ULTIMATE QUESTION....why does JL "deserve it" more than JJ?
Can we just not agree that we have 2 mediocre/average quarterbacks and one can run the ball and one can't?
If roles were reversed, where JJ got the early season slate putting up exactly the same number, and was pulled for a returning Lee, would we be having this debate?
Why do we not bitch as much about Ware losing his position despite being undefeated when he lost it, and him doing nothing "wrong"?
And the ULTIMATE QUESTION....why does JL "deserve it" more than JJ?
This post was edited on 12/14/11 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:39 pm to Larry
quote:
Does Lee do anything wrong?
Commenting about jj's faults =! saying Lee has none.
You fanbois have to give this schtick up, it's getting really really old.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:40 pm to lake chuck fan
It is amazing how the morons who think JJ hung the moon try to pretend like JL played the first 8 games like he played in 08. It is funny how over the last four games (and all of last year) the overwhelming theme is "LSU wins despite QB play," don't recall hearing that through the first eight games.
I think JL was the better QB last year following the UT and UF games, and I think, as a full body of work, he has shown to be the better QB this year. Les doesn't like to throw the ball, so he is going to play the guy that is a stronger runner; however, based on production this year, I think it is a mistake to exclusively play JJ. I'm a fan, I'm entitled to an opinion, I know that upsets some of you, but get over it.
I think JL was the better QB last year following the UT and UF games, and I think, as a full body of work, he has shown to be the better QB this year. Les doesn't like to throw the ball, so he is going to play the guy that is a stronger runner; however, based on production this year, I think it is a mistake to exclusively play JJ. I'm a fan, I'm entitled to an opinion, I know that upsets some of you, but get over it.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:41 pm to GoldenTiger85
Finebaum is asking Danny Sheridan about it right now.
Apparently he ran with the story.
Apparently he ran with the story.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:41 pm to Larry
quote:
What would Lee have done differently during GA? Keep in mind he was dependent on the run all year as well.
Can we just not agree that we have 2 mediocre/average quarterbacks and one can run the ball and one can't?
If roles were reversed, where JJ got the early season slate putting up exactly the same number, and was pulled for a returning Lee, would we be having this debate?
Why do we not bitch as much about Ware losing his position despite being undefeated when he lost it, and him doing nothing "wrong"?
And the ULTIMATE QUESTION....why does JL "deserve it" more than JJ?
1. JL gets the ball out faster and opens up the slip screen and quick slants, which will help slow down a blitz.
2. Agree both should be playing, but putting all the marbles behind JJ scares me to death. Just because he doesn't throw picks doesn't mean he doesn't make poor decisions.
3. We had this debate last year when in at least two games JL came in and cleaned up JJ's mess (UF and UT), so yes.
4. Ware has lost time to players that are CLEARLY out performing him. 5/15 for 30 yds by JJ is not out performing JL.
5. JL earned the opportunity to be on the field through the first 8 games. JJ threw 9 picks last season and he never lost substantial playing time. JL has earned the right to get snaps.
This post was edited on 12/14/11 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:41 pm to NaturalBeam
quote:
I was being sarcastic
I sensed that. But I think to Miles it is obvious (in his eyes) who the best player is. Otherwise, I'm not sure why Lee wouldn't play, at all.
Point being- I'm not sure I think its as obvious as Miles thinks it is. I know I'm a hack and he's a $4 million a year coach- just my opinion.
I don't think one QB is clearly better than the other.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:42 pm to CptBengal
quote:
You fanbois have to give this schtick up, it's getting really really old
I am not a "fanboi" of anything but LSU football and WHOEVER is the starting QB. Why do we have to choose QBs and please answer the question about "deserving it more" i would love to hear your response.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:42 pm to ellessuuuu
quote:
It is amazing how the morons who think JJ hung the moon try to pretend like JL played the first 8 games like he played in 08. It is funny how over the last four games (and all of last year) the overwhelming theme is "LSU wins despite QB play," don't recall hearing that through the first eight games.
I think JL was the better QB last year following the UT and UF games, and I think, as a full body of work, he has shown to be the better QB this year. Les doesn't like to throw the ball, so he is going to play the guy that is a stronger runner; however, based on production this year, I think it is a mistake to exclusively play JJ. I'm a fan, I'm entitled to an opinion, I know that upsets some of you, but get over it.
Pretty well said.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:44 pm to Larry
quote:
Larry
bad reference first off.
Secondly, the poster you responded to was commenting about JJ's faults.
You then say....
"Well I guess Lee is perfect then" or something equally inane.
It's pathetic. Discussing JJ doesn't have anything to do with Lee, until you made it so. That's sad, but it's even more pathetic you cant even grasp the absurdity of your comment.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:44 pm to Weaver
quote:
Can we just not agree that we have 2 mediocre/average quarterbacks and one can run the ball and one can't?
This i agree with, and one can pass and one cant. Im not for one QB over the other. I think the 2 QB systems is best for this team.
quote:
Why do we not bitch as much about Ware losing his position despite being undefeated when he lost it, and him doing nothing "wrong"?
Completely different. His "backups" have played extremely well. You can say the same for JJ or JL for that matter.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:44 pm to Larry
quote:
Why do we not bitch as much about Ware losing his position despite being undefeated when he lost it, and him doing nothing "wrong"?
Because you don't see a change in performance at that position, while some see a change in the performance at the QB position.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:45 pm to Tiger Nation 84
and for what ? Leading the gang to the parking Lot !
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:49 pm to Tyger1919
quote:I'll also agree - and add that against a defense like Bama's, we're better off with a running quarterback than a passing one. Isn't the entire point of this to beat Bama again? Or would y'all rather worry about who gets the most pats on the back?
Can we just not agree that we have 2 mediocre/average quarterbacks and one can run the ball and one can't?
This i agree with, and one can pass and one cant. Im not for one QB over the other. I think the 2 QB systems is best for this team.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:54 pm to NaturalBeam
quote:
I'll also agree - and add that against a defense like Bama's, we're better off with a running quarterback than a passing one. Isn't the entire point of this to beat Bama again? Or would y'all rather worry about who gets the most pats on the back?
Im with you on this. JJ needs to be the QB against bama, I think Lee should have came in against GA and gotten more pt against WKU.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:55 pm to CptBengal
You are such a cocksucker
If there is anyone in this thread that is a fanboy it's your bitch arse
If there is anyone in this thread that is a fanboy it's your bitch arse
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:56 pm to Larry
quote:
I am not a "fanboi" of anything but LSU football and WHOEVER is the starting QB. Why do we have to choose QBs and please answer the question about "deserving it more" i would love to hear your response.
This describes most rational fans. There are two guys on this site who have taken their "fanboiness" to a level that is ridiculous. That clown is one of the two.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:58 pm to Camp Randall
quote:
That clown is one of the two.
all who do not agree with your worthless opinion are clowns?
odd....wanna bump some of your other JL's gonna be ineligible threads?
Posted on 12/14/11 at 3:02 pm to CptBengal
quote:
all who do not agree with your worthless opinion are clowns?
odd....wanna bump some of your other JL's gonna be ineligible threads?
No you are a clown because of the constant drumbeat of posts about Lee and Jefferson. Over and Over and Over.
I don't have a clue what Lee's status is gonna be. I never once said Lee was gonna be ineligible.
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