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re: Leadership, and how most of you know nothing about it.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:39 pm to Beef Supreme
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:39 pm to Beef Supreme
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Beef Supreme
You have no idea...I've been in positions of leadership, in athletics, in life and death positions included...for 40 years. Led 18-22 year olds who were concerned about much more than football. Grow-up "Supreme Beef." hahahahahaha
But you likely have a good side and I don't want to be too "passive aggressive."
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Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:39 pm to JawjaTigah
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Problem. The stages of grief are fluid and as studies have shown, they can recur in kind of random ways. So to say you are at the "acceptance" stage is to simply mean you are at this moment. It does not mean you are there permanently. There is no such thing as a "time clock" on grieving. I'm sure our counselors and shrinks here, as well as pastors, can verify what I just said.
so you're saying i havent accepted it?
shite
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:40 pm to tenacious
Are you fricking kidding me. A LEADER will do what it takes to win. A LEADER does not show favoritism. A LEADER does not cause a division within the team.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:41 pm to kevg33
So is it the job of the leader to replace someone who is ineffective and hurting the entire organization?
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:42 pm to Ash Williams
quote:Haha! No I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is right now you have, and maybe this is where you will stay put. But tomorrow or next week or next season, you might find yourself revisiting feelings (different levels/stages) of grief over this. It also tends to be cumulative. So next time a bonehead thing is done by this or some other LSU coach, the weight of past griefs will compound your reaction. I think part of the heat of this moment is fueled by a lot of people who have been "grieving" over the QB situation for the past 4 years. They witnessed their worst nightmares come true in this game and it brought their whole house down. Griefs compounded.
so you're saying i havent accepted it?
shite
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:43 pm to tenacious
I've forgotten more about leadership than you will ever know. fact bud
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:43 pm to tenacious
wow self centered much? Id rather the whiners than you pseudo intellectuals preaching from up on high. GFY.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:44 pm to the LSUSaint
And also, I hate to say it but Nick Saban is a leader also...
I wonder if he would have pulled his starter....or what about Spurrier, or Meyer, or any other great coach, college or pro!
I wonder if he would have pulled his starter....or what about Spurrier, or Meyer, or any other great coach, college or pro!
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:45 pm to tenacious
I love the Rant. I mean, I hate most of you, but I love the Rant when we can all come together to point at sanctimony and laugh.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:46 pm to TheMonTSteR
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"You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view - until you climb into his skin and walk around in it."
Like an Edgar suit?
/too obscure?
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:47 pm to ccomeaux
quote:
halftime for me.
Quitter!
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:48 pm to the LSUSaint
quote:Replace or do something to improve/rehabilitate/instruct/guide/mentor that someone and hopefully help them become a positive contributor again. CLM seemed to "get it" with Lee the first part of this season. But with the first Bama game, he reflexively reset to rigidity and undid all the good with Lee by reinstating JJ as starter and basically trashing the whole 2 QB idea he's so strongly advocated verbally. Actions do speak louder, and surely JL got the message. A lot of us fans did, too.
So is it the job of the leader to replace someone who is ineffective and hurting the entire organization?
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:49 pm to tenacious
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I am the leader of an organization,
I think I'll sig quote this.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:49 pm to the LSUSaint
quote:
I wonder if he would have pulled his starter....or what about Spurrier, or Meyer, or any other great coach, college or pro!
Spurrier wouldve pulled him if he had thrown for 5 TDs in the first quarter
Spurrier loves pulling QBs
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:53 pm to tenacious
quote:
Leaders care more about their organization than anyone else
bullshite. Leaders care about leading to get a better bottom line... not leading to make employees happy (unless it leads to a better bottom line)
quote:
Leaders can't please everyone - Leadership comes with hard decisions... Lots of them.
Good leaders can get supporters, to support them on tough decisions. Looking at comments on this board CLM failed in this regard.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:53 pm to Tiger n Austin
I don't waste my time (usually) posting and arguing with people who won't consider an opinion different from theirs.The original post made some valid points but most people responding took personal shots or made irrelevant, unintelligent comments.
I too was disappointed JL didn't get a chance in the 4th quarter.
LSU had a great year with Miles and his staff coaching us to an unprecedented 13 win season over top quality opposition,including Bama. I was pissed off too about the NC game but everyone should (rantards won't)consider the following FACTS:
1) Miles wanted to win and had more at stake than any of us.
2)Miles made decisions,right or wrong, in an attempt to win.
3)Our offensive plan was based on our offense being able to block at least once in a while and its impossible to scheme an offensive plan without blocking.
4)our OL got whipped all night and we couldn't run and didn't have time to pass regardless of who was QB.
5)It's time to stop bashing Miles,the players and anyone else you want to blame and get behind our team and coaches for next season.
Now....Flame on!
I too was disappointed JL didn't get a chance in the 4th quarter.
LSU had a great year with Miles and his staff coaching us to an unprecedented 13 win season over top quality opposition,including Bama. I was pissed off too about the NC game but everyone should (rantards won't)consider the following FACTS:
1) Miles wanted to win and had more at stake than any of us.
2)Miles made decisions,right or wrong, in an attempt to win.
3)Our offensive plan was based on our offense being able to block at least once in a while and its impossible to scheme an offensive plan without blocking.
4)our OL got whipped all night and we couldn't run and didn't have time to pass regardless of who was QB.
5)It's time to stop bashing Miles,the players and anyone else you want to blame and get behind our team and coaches for next season.
Now....Flame on!
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:54 pm to tenacious
A nice big GFY is in order here oh mighty leader of the world. People like you make me sick
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:55 pm to tenacious
Well JJ was supposed to be a team leader...how well did he follow your "leadership rules"?
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:55 pm to the LSUSaint
quote:Take a blood pressure pill or something.
the LSUSaint
quote:I agree we should have tried something different. Yes, I wonder why there was no change. I was looking for a change in the 2nd qtr and again early in the 3rd.
Not at all, but seriously only you would read every word of that stupid analogy and comparing it to a struggling offense in the LAST GAME OF THE YEAR!
IT WAS FLAT OUT IGNORANT NOT TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT MONDAY NIGHT AFTER 3 QUARTERS OF BLEEDING!
Les said he was responsible. He did not throw anyone under the bus -- no staff, no player. What more do you want from him? He fricked up. He admitted he fricked up. Do you want him to say it in those words? Would that suffice?
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:56 pm to tenacious
I'm not a leader, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night...
I know that when a real leader makes a terrible baffling decision, they deal with the ramifications of it. Rather than let it become a public relations nightmare, they admit to the mistake, express their line of thought and how it was wrong, and definitively state their intention to never let such a thing happen again. This is done to restore confidence, as without confidence a leader is severely handicapped.
I know that when a real leader makes a terrible baffling decision, they deal with the ramifications of it. Rather than let it become a public relations nightmare, they admit to the mistake, express their line of thought and how it was wrong, and definitively state their intention to never let such a thing happen again. This is done to restore confidence, as without confidence a leader is severely handicapped.
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