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re: Last night was blatant proof that John Chavis was never the problem.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:30 pm to Cs
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:30 pm to Cs
I don't disagree with much of this, but how many late ones have we lost against tough teams because the D couldn't close the deal?
Even teams with elite offenses need to defend a narrow lead from time to time
I saw more aggressiveness last night than all of Chavis's years at LSU combined
Even teams with elite offenses need to defend a narrow lead from time to time
I saw more aggressiveness last night than all of Chavis's years at LSU combined
This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 12:32 pm
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Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:32 pm to Vacherie Saint
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saw more aggressiveness last night than all of Chavis's years at LSU combined
Shh. Don't ruin the narrative. I'm enjoying the OP make himself slit his wrists over les miles and winning on the road at a ranked SEC opponents stadium
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:32 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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this defense stopped MSU at the end of the game last night.
The defense allowed MSU to go from their own 11 yard line down to our 31.
The difference is that they had a delay of game penalty and a poor kicking game.
You're missing the bigger picture, though - why were we in this exact same situation to begin with?
The offensive ineptitude puts our defense in these positions. Sometimes the defense holds. Sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't, the defense is blamed, while the offense, which is the root of the problem, gets a pass.
This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:32 pm to WeeWee
I thought the narrative was that Chavis was Miles crutch? Bamas lowly Linebacker coach steps in and shuts down a Heisman Caliber QB from running rough shod over LSUs D.
It's like some of y'all forgot what Dak did to LSU last year.....at Death Valley
It's like some of y'all forgot what Dak did to LSU last year.....at Death Valley
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:34 pm to The Boat
This is what LSU football until Miles leaves. The game has passed him by. The posted is 100% on the money.
I cannot fathom how LSU gets great receivers to come when Miles has no QB development and is so one dimensional run offense.
I cannot fathom how LSU gets great receivers to come when Miles has no QB development and is so one dimensional run offense.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:34 pm to The Boat
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Who was our middle linebacker against them in 2014 and who was it last night?
You're not making the point I think you want to with this statement.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:34 pm to Cs
You're right, they didn't need to come back on us last year since they ran up and down the field on Chavis' defense. You're an idiot.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:36 pm to MoneyShot
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You're not making the point I think you want to with this statement.
I'm making the exact point I want to. Chavis and Miles were idiots for either not having Beckwith ready to play for a year and a half or simply not playing him because a small white guy was a senior.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:37 pm to Cs
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a poor kicking game.
A 52 yard fg isn't a gimme at the pro level. Let alone cfb.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:38 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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they didn't need to come back on us last year since they ran up and down the field on Chavis' defense.
Right, because all of the youth that we had on defense last year, all of which came back this year, should be completely overlooked when assessing the abilities of Chavis and Steele as DCs.
Last year was an incredibly young and vulnerable defense, particularly on the inside. This year's defense is far more experienced.
This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:38 pm to The Boat
Lol, Beckwith alone doesn't account for this performance
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:39 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Lol, Beckwith alone doesn't account for this performance
Beckwith cracked Dak hard a couple of times early last night and State said we better change this plan.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:40 pm to The Boat
My fault, I thought you were disagreeing with the original post you'd quoted. I agree, and Coach Miles was the one who forced the issue on getting Beckwith playing time.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:40 pm to Cs
With the Chief's D, we would be in the usual prevent D on the last drive and would lose the game.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:42 pm to Cs
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The defense allowed MSU to go from their own 11 yard line down to our 31.
If you didn't see a difference in the pressure we were applying on that final drive than the than on the drives on half a dozen or so last minute drives over the past three seasons than I won't bother trying to explain it to you.
Did Prescott, probably the best QB we'll face all season, make some plays to move his team down the field? Sure. I would expect nothing less from a player of his caliber. But eventually the defense stopped him, and they were in 3rd and 10 even before the delay of game.
And I'm not even defending the play calling, although I don't find it as absurd as some on this board that a coach may try to protect his young quarterback in a very hostile environment by leaning on a run game that is averaging over 5 yards a carry.
I guess I'll just wait and see how the team looks a little after week 1 before making up my mind on this offense.
This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:44 pm to Cs
You nailed it, except for one thing. We did not have the #1 defense last year. They were middle of the pack. Statistically they were #1 because our offense ate clock. Otherwise I totally agree with your post. Chavis is a good DC, and while 3rd and Chavis is real, it's a widespread phenomenon throughout all levels of football. It has more to do with human nature than with John Chavis.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:45 pm to Cs
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Right, because all of the youth that we had on defense last year, all of which came back this year, should be completely overlooked when assessing the abilities of Chavis and Steele as DCs.
Newsflash, our offense is filled with sophomores and freshmen. It was even younger last year.
ETA: You think that we have a vastly different offense from 2013? No, but we had a lot more experienced players on that team. Its not what you think it is to a certain extent. Its inexperience and the of trust from the coaching staff due to that inexperience.
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Last year was an incredibly young and vulnerable defense
The offense was even younger than the defense. Come on dude you're better than this I would hope.
This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:46 pm to Plankton
quote:you mean what we were 30 seconds away from last night,,,,lame arguement
With Chavis, we would have seen a zone getting shredded with receivers getting plenty YAC. Ultimately leading to a TD or an easy FG.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:47 pm to Cs
i don't doubt chavis wasn't as big a problem as some think, just as i don't doubt there isn't some wacky coincidence that our last 4 offensive coordinators have employed virtually the same offense.
but i do think this team's defensive ceiling is a little higher under steele and yawyaw, we just need some more depth up front.
but i do think this team's defensive ceiling is a little higher under steele and yawyaw, we just need some more depth up front.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:47 pm to Tigris
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2014 - Mississippi State had 302 yards rushing with a 6.2 yard per rush average.
Last night - 43 yards rushing, 1.7 yards per rush.
It's not all about offense, our defense was much better last night and was actually applying pressure.
Good riddance to Chavis.
Remind us how many starters MSU lost. LSU was young last year while MSU had a veteran team. The roles were swapped. LSU had a more experienced defense while MSU was dealing with a rebuilt offense. Don't compare stats from a game across years. They are incomparable due to differences in personnel, mentality, timing, location, etc.
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