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re: Last night was a great example of the dangers of running a simpleton offense
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:17 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:17 am to SlowFlowPro
In our last two bowl games, we've had 14 total first downs 
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:20 am to EarthwormJim
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So giving up third and longs early in the game had nothing to do with a defense being tired
it had something to do with it
our offense didn't even win TOS when it's job is to dominate TOS. how can you blame the defense for that utter failure?
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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our offense didn't even win TOS when it's job is to dominate TOS. how can you blame the defense for that utter failure?
TOS? Time of possession?
I can blame the defense because the let Clemson dominate TOP.. Both squads sucked last night.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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post saban (not that he left us with a full contingent in 2007) talent, we've had 1 good year of OL play (2011)
Not really. 09 was terrible. Black was playing on 1 knee, Hitt was exposed and everyone else besides Barksdale was young and inexperienced. 10 and 11 were both good lines. This year sucked because we lost our best lineman and offensive player early and our second best lineman went AWOL. This forced 3 really young guys and 1 guy coming off a major knee injury into the lineup.
I don't think our offense is simple or easy to prepare for. We wouldn't have the success we have when it is clicking. I think our execution is god awful way too often.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:30 am to SlowFlowPro
The Miles Internet knights will have your head for posting blasphemy.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:32 am to SlowFlowPro
We have a simpleton calling the plays.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:34 am to EarthwormJim
LSU had 9 punts against an ACC Clemson defense. The defense had two turnovers deep in Clemson territory which gave us 10 points.
Anyone blaming D regardless of a few big 3rd downs which every team gives up is scapegoating
The offensive scheme is fricking broken when you have 200 yards and punt 9 times against Clemson.
That's it. Anything else is fricking as simple minded as the offensive scheme
Anyone blaming D regardless of a few big 3rd downs which every team gives up is scapegoating
The offensive scheme is fricking broken when you have 200 yards and punt 9 times against Clemson.
That's it. Anything else is fricking as simple minded as the offensive scheme
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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Last night was a great example of the dangers of running a simpleton offense
Just exactly what did you expectfrom a simpleton coach ? And to top it off,a contract extension that even bobby bowden would love.Gotta love these 10-2 years. Well,make that 10-3
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:39 am to ItNeverRains
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LSU had 9 punts against an ACC Clemson defense. The defense had two turnovers deep in Clemson territory which gave us 10 points. Anyone blaming D regardless of a few big 3rd downs which every team gives up is scapegoating The offensive scheme is fricking broken when you have 200 yards and punt 9 times against Clemson. That's it. Anything else is fricking as simple minded as the offensive scheme
Offense was terrible, don't agree it's because of a simple scheme. Defense was just as bad for most of the game.
You don't give up 32 first downs simply because of the offense.
In our last 4 games the defense has given up season high passing yardage to the opposing QB.
This team wasn't great this year and was fortunate to win as many games as it did.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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our offense didn't even win TOS when it's job is to dominate TOS.
Yes they did if TOS = Total Offensive Shite !
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:50 am to EarthwormJim
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Offense was terrible, don't agree it's because of a simple scheme. Defense was just as bad for most of the game. You don't give up 32 first downs simply because of the offense.
When your offense doesn't have 8 "3 & outs" you don't give up 32 first downs. It's physically impossible in a 60 minute game.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:52 am to EarthwormJim
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To be fair they tried to open it up early, but O-line couldn't block for shite.
Even I know how to stop this. We threw one damn screen pass all night long! That's how you slow down a pass rush, it's not rocket science. Where was the RB passes? We had some great success earlier in the year with them.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:57 am to ItNeverRains
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When your offense doesn't have 8 "3 & outs" you don't give up 32 first downs. It's physically impossible in a 60 minute game.
I've already said the offense was bad, but it's absurd how you guys refuse to place any blame on the defense. Both sides of the ball were pitiful outside of a handful of plays.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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that makes 2 bowls in a row
And three out of four. The Les Miles bowl competence myth is well and truly debunked.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:02 am to EarthwormJim
#6 should have been doubled and chucked at the line all night and we win, especially on the 4th and long. To let him run free into routes was awful.
Offense lost the game, and it wasn't our right tackle, it was Mett not seeing the entire field, forcing a ball into coverage when we were threatening in Clemson territory after a long gain, and taking too many sacks because he's immobile and can't move in the pocket.
Offense lost the game, and it wasn't our right tackle, it was Mett not seeing the entire field, forcing a ball into coverage when we were threatening in Clemson territory after a long gain, and taking too many sacks because he's immobile and can't move in the pocket.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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we never developed a legit passing scheme
As far as I can tell, LSU never developed a legit running scheme either. The only way the running game ever succeeded was just by running over people with superior athletes. I didn't watch much LSU football this year, but if it was anything like recent years, the running scheme was some rinky dink middle school bullshite.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 12:13 pm to EarthwormJim
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I've already said the offense was bad, but it's absurd how you guys refuse to place any blame on the defense. Both sides of the ball were pitiful outside of a handful of plays.
Clemson has 8th ranked offense in county. The rules of the game now heavily favor offense. The 3&7's, 3&8's and obviously 4&16 are atrocious, but there is no way Clemson should hold LSU talent to 8 3&outs ever.
That same defensive product shown last night with a half arse competent offensive wins that game every time.
The offense is broken.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 12:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Les Miles enters every game with the mind set of running the football, play field position, keep the defense off of the field, and wear the other team down. It is mind numbing that Les Miles thinks that he can use certain personnel packages to run certain plays, and show the other team exactly what pay is coming. Even the bad defenses can slow down an offense with such predictability.
As Slowflo said, we never established a passing game that we could go to if other teams refused to respect the pass. You play enough games that come down to the final drive, law of averages say that the ball will bounce the other way at times.
As Slowflo said, we never established a passing game that we could go to if other teams refused to respect the pass. You play enough games that come down to the final drive, law of averages say that the ball will bounce the other way at times.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 12:34 pm to Choupique19
All 3 games were lost because of the offense. Yes the D gave up the winning TD to Bama but we had a chance on offense to get a first down and put the game away just like last night.
Alleva effed up by not demanding as part of Miles' new deal that he have a separate OL and OC coach.
We've had a poor offense since 2008. That's coaching.
Alleva effed up by not demanding as part of Miles' new deal that he have a separate OL and OC coach.
We've had a poor offense since 2008. That's coaching.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 12:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we've had 1 good year of OL play (2011)
This is the real problem. For all the bitching about QB play and simple offense, our OL has not been what it was. Whether it's coaching and development or more likely just poor talent evaluation in recruiting, the talent level is not where it used to be. Just look at NFL rosters and you see Todd McClure (a Dinardo recruit) Nate Livings, Andrew Whitworth and Steve Peterman all recruited by Saban. The only Miles era OL man in the NFL Barksdale, was cut in the middle of the season and picked up. Clearly the talent upfront has fallen off.
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 1:11 pm
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