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re: La'el Collins reportedly signing with Cowboys

Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:52 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:52 am to
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You are a piece of shite.


By being objective in what was said by posters and what's been proven thus far? You are a winner.


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Your points are purely rhetorical, so there is no value in discrediting them.



i guess by rhetorical, you truly mean factual.

Listen i have no fricking clue about the knowledge that a few posters were claiming to know about something. But its very evident that they have yet to be proved wrong to this point.

But i'm the piece of shite here... yeah buddy.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:56 am to
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but no i don't think it's more likely someone shot her because she refused to let them borrow her car.


Even though the only witness said that she refused to let someone borrow her car immediately before he shot her?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:04 am to
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Even though the only witness said that she refused to let someone borrow her car immediately before he shot her?

I'm saying I don't believe that is the real reason she was shot. It's certainly possible but unlikely the actual motive.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:22 am to
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Listen i have no fricking clue about the knowledge that a few posters were claiming to know about something. But its very evident that they have yet to be proved wrong to this point.


Hard to be proven wrong when you don't actually say anything. What about the one guy who claimed Collins would be in cuffs by the end of the day for something else? What was that, Monday? Well, he's still not in cuffs so I guess that guy was proven wrong.

He's not the father. Even if he thought he might be, murder is a huge fricking leap for a guy with no criminal past.

And all these people claiming they know shite about Collins being in trouble for something completely unrelated are full of it. It's hard to believe that if he had something else floating around out there that it wouldn't have been brought out when, you know, he was being sought for questioning in a double homicide.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:28 am to
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And all these people claiming they know shite about Collins being in trouble for something completely unrelated are full of it. It's hard to believe that if he had something else floating around out there that it wouldn't have been brought out when, you know, he was being sought for questioning in a double homicide.


I wouldn't say the posters are full of it if that's what they heard. Without knowing their sources and how sources got info, its hard to pass specific judgement. I don't think any of the posters were here to create fables to stroke their ego. Them hinting at things what they heard on a message board didn't affect anything in real life. I rather be given glimpses of info of what's being floated than not. Attacking them is quite immature and wreaks of hostility bc of one's homerism.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:35 am to
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you answered your own question. murderers are generally not the most rational, practical people.


Rational?? He would have to be a freaking emotional retard to pick the absolute worst time to bring a double killing investigation down on his head. I don't think we have any evidence of Collins falling into that group.

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Why did Aaron Hernandez


AH is a known gang type guy for a long time who has had trouble at a number of stops. I know of no evidence of Collins ever showing the same emotional control problems.

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police are VERY careful not to call someone a suspect


I understand that, but they don't have to call anyone "not a suspect" either...do they? Couldn't they have said they wanted to question Collins without any label? Are you saying there is no difference between "not a suspect" and we want to question?
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:45 am to
They didn't hint at things they heard. They merely hinted that they had heard things, and then crawfished when pressed for more detail. You don't believe the lie dectector or paternity test proves anything, but you want to support and protect people that were in here doing nothing but disseminating rumor and hearsay.

If they truly had credible information, posting it wouldn't have effected anything in "real life" either.

Don't ask me why people run to forums to say, "I know something, but I can't tell you." I don't understand what they gain from it. But it absolutely happens.

People who report rumor are helping to spread the rumor, even if the disclaim that it's rumor from the outset. People who do that absolutely deserve ridicule.

And whether the lie detector or paternity tests exonerate Collins is pretty irrelevant. Of course they don't. But here is some things we know to be or can assume to be true:

Collins had no phone or text communication with Mills for some time prior to the murder.

Collins has no criminal history.

As of now, Collins is not a suspect, person of interest, or whatever, in the murder of Brittany Mills and her child.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 11:53 am
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:53 am to
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I rather be given glimpses of info of what's being floated than not. Attacking them is quite immature and wreaks of hostility bc of one's homerism.


Let me see if I have this right. Speculating, hinting at, all like of crap bout a LSU player who his no history of school, team, or legal problems is ok, but asking what you have to support your claims and calling BS cause you have nothing to support the claims is "immature and wreaks of hostility."

That's a fairly retarded thought process, but each to our own.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73455 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:01 pm to
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Rational?? He would have to be a freaking emotional retard to pick the absolute worst time to bring a double killing investigation down on his head. I don't think we have any evidence of Collins falling into that group.


AH is a known gang type guy for a long time who has had trouble at a number of stops. I know of no evidence of Collins ever showing the same emotional control problems.

ok, does Rae Carruth work better for you? He had no prior criminal history before murdering his pregnant girlfriend because she refused to have an abortion. You're kind of missing the point. When someone commits a murder, the rationality of the act is generally not crossing their minds.

I have not said in the entirety of this thread I thought Collins had anything to do with it, nor did i say he had reason to or some sort of past history that would implicate his propensity for this type of behavior. However, police obtained a DNA sample for paternity testing for a reason. And it was not just to give him a heads up in case he was worried about his child dying. People do crazy things in moments of stress. He was likely given a paternity test to aid in ruling him out as a suspect, not just for some benevolent reason
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:08 pm to
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I'm saying I don't believe that is the real reason she was shot. It's certainly possible but unlikely the actual motive.


Oh, but the slight chance that La'el didn't pull out is more likely to be? Okay, Matlock.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:10 pm to
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That's a fairly retarded thought process,


Chad is a fairly retarded poster. Dude had to ask for instructions on how to back a trailer into his driveway.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:10 pm to
Yeesh.

This thread needs to DIAF.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:12 pm to
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ok, does Rae Carruth work better for you? He had no prior criminal history before murdering his pregnant girlfriend because she refused to have an abortion. You're kind of missing the point. When someone commits a murder, the rationality of the act is generally not crossing their minds.


But there's this:

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During Carruth's sophomore year at CU, his Sacramento girlfriend, Michelle Wright, gave birth to their son Raelondo. Carruth all but neglected Raelondo until Wright sued him for child support. Wright later testified that Carruth agreed to pay $2,700 in child support--half of what he was ordered to pay by a judge--on condition that he be a better father, something he failed to do
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:13 pm to
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I have not said in the entirety of this thread I thought Collins had anything to do with it,


No, you just fought for 2 pages to prove that he was a "suspect.'
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:31 pm to
Dallas it is, per this verified account:

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Charean Williams
@NFLCharean
Cowboys have signed La'el Collins, according to a source.


This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 12:31 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73455 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:31 pm to
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Oh, but the slight chance that La'el didn't pull out is more likely to be? Okay, Matlock.

Is it more likely that the father of a child he didn't want murdered the pregnant mother or that someone murdered a woman because she wouldn't let them borrow her car? hmmmm

again, I never said I thought La'el Collins had anything to do with it, quite the contrary actually. I've expressed that all along. All I've said is the reasonable expectations of how police were conducting their investigation and why Collins was questioned and why he was asked to provide a DNA sample.

People have taken strawmen arguments to a new level in this thread.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73455 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:31 pm to
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No, you just fought for 2 pages to prove that he was a "suspect.'

correct
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:32 pm to
Glad he got this sorted out and landed where he wanted, but the Cowboys?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73455 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:35 pm to
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But there's this

failing to pay child support shows the propensity to murder ? That's quite a leap
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:35 pm to
Meltdown incoming
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