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re: Kragthorpe's salary....

Posted on 3/5/11 at 11:10 am to
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70243 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 11:10 am to
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Who are you, Sinead O'Conner?


TAF money should definitely go to all the Catholics.
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
THE Death Valley
Member since Nov 2007
4060 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 11:15 am to
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You feel like the guy should be the 2nd highest paid OC in the country unproven


This is athletics NOT the real world. There is no rhyme or reason for the pay asst coaches &/or head coaches get other than the expectations of greatness. Muschamp's contract as the head coach at Florida will pay him $2.7 million a year for five years,that puts his salary puts in the upper half of SEC head coaches . Unproven. Why? Expectations of greatness. If LSU was/is to hire top notch asst coaches, they have to put up the money. Bargain basement shopping for asst coaches in the SEC will NOT get you much success.

G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
This post was edited on 3/5/11 at 11:17 am
Posted by Intrepid
Hobe Sound, Florida
Member since Aug 2006
613 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 11:15 am to
Head coach football univ. of ala. salary should be reduced 66% to be in line with the rest of America's big time head football coaches salaries or approx. $2.1 million but ala. had such a nervous breakdown to get saban that they had to triple the going rate and then put up a statue of him, that is a sick place.
This post was edited on 3/5/11 at 11:18 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133408 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 11:27 am to
Not surprised at all. What does the economy have to do with paying coaches a competitive salary?
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
61764 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 11:28 am to
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as a WR coach..................so they were going to pay him in the 500k range for that?


Do your homework, who is the OC at A&m, how old is he? Who would have taken his place? Krag would have soon gotten offers to move back into a HC'ing job. In the coaching profession Krags is well respected. Keep you eye on him.
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 11:35 am to
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I just passed along the collection plate to get you to stop posting


How much did you get?
Posted by SNAKE
Lafayette/Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
705 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 11:38 am to
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If TAF can pay for it, they can do whatever they want


1)Not all of TAF money is acquired by voluntary donations. Since a lot of these "donations" are required if you want to get tickets , parking or even get on a waiting list, money should be spent prudently , not just thrown away.

2) LSU's # 1 choice for OC was very much in demand as the OC for Boise St. He gets hired by the wealthiest ath. dept , alum assoc , fan base in college football for 650,000 . We get a coach, while formerly a head coach, his most recent job was as a position coach @ TAM.He was not in great demand and not popular with our fan base when hired. But we pay our 2nd choice more than Texas pays
our 1st choice.

I think we could have had this coach for no more than $500,000 which is still $50,000 more than we paid our OC of 4 yrs(whether or not you blamed Crowton or Miles for our off. problems, Crowton was hired by Maryland ,who w/o near the resources that LSU has, for the same we paid him). This is your money & mine . When it's thrown away they just increase what you are already required to pay. This is NOT the cost of competing. It's the cost of WASTE !
Posted by Pianoman
New Iberia
Member since Dec 2003
2874 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 11:40 am to
I know the money doesn't come from the school....it's just the perception of the public that I was wondering about. If the investment pays off in a good number of football wins it will have been worth it. Look out if the wins don't come though...they might have to go get a teacher's job in Wisconsin if they want a pay raise! Sports has truly taken hold of our nation, not unlike the Roman empire in its last days!
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133408 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 11:43 am to
You obviously flunked European history.
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14798 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 11:55 am to
Absolutely
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 11:55 am to
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1)Not all of TAF money is acquired by voluntary donations. Since a lot of these "donations" are required if you want to get tickets , parking or even get on a waiting list, money should be spent prudently , not just thrown away


What % goes to coaching salaries and what % goes to such dumb things like paving parking lots, toilet paper in the stadium, clean up after games and support of other programs?


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He was not in great demand

Are you his agent? How do you know how many offers he had?

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not popular with our fan base when hired.

Nobody is popular with the fan base when hired. I don't recall dancing in the streets when Curley, Dinardo, Saban and/or Miles was hired.

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I think we could have had this coach for no more than $500,000

How do you know this?
$50,000 represents what percentage of total coaches' salaries.

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is your money & mine .

How much exactly is your contribution to only Kragthorpe's salary? Just his. Nobody else's or nothing for either other TAF or LSU athletic department projects. Tell me precisely what amount of $$ are you bitching about.

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When it's thrown away they just increase what you are already required to pay

So if Kragthorpe comes to LSU for $500,000, how much do ticket prices and TAG " contributions" come down?

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This is NOT the cost of competing. It's the cost of WASTE

How much?

The world waits breathlessly for your indepth analysis
Posted by Angry LLAMA
the energy capital of the world
Member since Mar 2009
2731 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 12:14 pm to
i think the $700K is a bit steep myself. it only raises the expectations i will have for the offense. fair or not, when you take the big money, you accept big expectations
Posted by Angry LLAMA
the energy capital of the world
Member since Mar 2009
2731 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 12:16 pm to
how much is chaz weis making at florida?
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 12:29 pm to
nothing like looking at the world in a vacuum...
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 12:31 pm to
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nothing like looking at the world in a vacuum...


Nothing like getting your panties in a wad over things that don't directly effect you...........
Posted by Tigerfan53
Death Valley
Member since Nov 2010
3164 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 12:34 pm to
Who cares what his salary is?
Posted by SNAKE
Lafayette/Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
705 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 12:39 pm to
Look you angry bastard, you have jumped all over my ideas and beliefs about the OC's $700,000 hire being too much. You jump my arse w/rhetorical questions and wanting me to back up my statements w/facts and info often not pertaining to to the thread.

At the same time you have not held yourself to the standards that you have held me. Questions like are you his agent , what % , how much ,how in demand etc? You go answer them yourself. At the least use some COMMON SENSE and quit being a total jerk.


I do think it's funny that while you attacked my statements line by line , you conveniently left alone my point about Texas hiring our 1st choice
for less than we hired our 2nd choice. Little cherry picker!

Talk to me when YOU do your fact research instead of showering me w/your opinions and wanting me to do frivolous research to refute your opinions.
You sir, are a classic lazy arse obstructionist!
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60562 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 12:58 pm to
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increasing some of the others as well with the free market the way it is?


A poor economy has nothing to do with it. Good coaches are in high demand and relatively short supply
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81712 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 1:40 pm to
people who help pay for it....it doesn't bother me a bunch, but him being the 2nd highest paid OC just means it raises my expectations from his offense. Like a top 10 or 15 offense.
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 3/5/11 at 2:27 pm to
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I do think it's funny that while you attacked my statements line by line , you conveniently left alone my point about Texas hiring our 1st choice
for less than we hired our 2nd choice. Little cherry picker


What in the fu ck does it matter what Texas paid for their OC/ the topic is LSU's OC. Not every one gets their first choice in everything. It's called life. Deal with it.

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jump my arse w/rhetorical questions and wanting me to back up my statements w/facts and info often not pertaining to to the thread.


We can't have that can we? We can't have people making statements and having to back them up with facts and data?

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Questions like are you his agent , what % , how much ,how in demand etc? You go answer them yourself.

I'm not the one bitching. You made statements that you held as fact. I just asked you to back them up.

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Talk to me when YOU do your fact research instead of showering me w/your opinions and wanting me to do frivolous research to refute your opinions.

When I flat out hold something as true I will.
When I say that someone is overpaid, I'll have data to prove it (although nobody is ever really overpaid.


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You sir, are a classic lazy arse obstructionist!

And you sir, are the classic know nothing whiner.

He makes more than me
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