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re: Kelly has already lost the top 2 DL in the state to A&M

Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:28 am to
Posted by Homer Pelican
Homer la
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:28 am to
It sucks
Posted by LSUtwolves
Member since Jun 2016
878 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:29 am to
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Ok. Let’s assume this is true How does LSU outbid schools like aTm who have boatloads more money than we do?


We don’t. LSU will be getting out recruited unless something changes with NIL.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3960 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:30 am to
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This isn't pro ball. Why should u have to pay an 18 year old to come to LSU. HE SHOULD WANT TO


That’s not reality. Especially with the economic background many of these kids come from.

I don’t blame them for taking the most money they can get.

But the question no one wants to answer is how does LSU combat this.

It’s fine to sit here and bitch about NIL and other schools outbidding us. But with LSUs resources, what can be done? Are there any solutions?
Posted by Homer Pelican
Homer la
Member since Dec 2021
1937 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:30 am to
No one should be paying. They are amatures not pro. That's why u go to college ball. Get better so u can get paid in pros
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2298 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:30 am to
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Get ready. Some of our least intelligent fans are about to drop in and blame it on money from A&M.

Jacoby Matthews would be here in the pre NIL days. More talented than any DB on LSU’s roster. It’s all about money. You keep ignoring what’s staring you in the face.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29314 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:31 am to
It means we don’t get them.


Personally think orgeron would have gotten waxed in NiL and not because he isn’t a good recruiter. The school has money but Aggie is another level unfortunately. People act like A&M and Texas are magically poaching too players in the state now


Not to say I’m not angry at Brian Kelly but some of these issues are actually not totally his fault
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3960 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:32 am to
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He is the HC. It’s his fault


This is another question no one seems to be able to answer.

If we are losing recruits due to money and other schools offering better NIL deals, what can BK do about it?

How much of recruiting is now out of the coaches hands because of NIL money?
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56303 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:33 am to
Laying it all on money is bullshite

This staff lacks elite recruiters and it shows in the recruiting class

Blaming money every time a recruit goes elsewhere is absolute bullshite and gives CBK a pass

Posted by LSUtwolves
Member since Jun 2016
878 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:33 am to
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No one should be paying. They are amatures not pro. That's why u go to college ball. Get better so u can get paid in pros


College football is a multibillion dollar industry. But the only ones not getting paid should be the players?!? Don’t be so obtuse
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3960 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:34 am to
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We don’t. LSU will be getting out recruited unless something changes with NIL


That’s my point. Lots of bitching about coaches not being able to recruit, but looks like NIL money is taking a lot of recruiting out of the coaches hands.

BK can go hard after the best HS players in the country, but if we can’t match the money other schools are offering, what can he do?
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
7052 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:34 am to
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Brian Kelly is a garbage coach


Not sure about this

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a garbage recruiter


This is starting to prove true. A top 10 team (@beginning of the season) with immediate playing time available, and we can't land half the elite players in our state.
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
4724 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:34 am to
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How does LSU outbid schools like aTm who have boatloads more money than we do?


Simple answer is you don’t. Wait until Texas enters the SEC. The bidding wars between Aggy and UT will be epic. We will get the leftovers and the kids that want to play for LSU.
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7886 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:34 am to
Then we don’t need to be paying $100M for a coach do we?
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7330 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:34 am to
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Who else is going to do it?


I'm looking at Kelly's $10M a year salary
Posted by Homer Pelican
Homer la
Member since Dec 2021
1937 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:36 am to
Money talks good players walk. Crying shame. Whoever started NIL needs his nuts stomped. It's ruined recruiting and college football. These kids aren't pros.you go to college ger education get better to get drafted. Then get paid for your talent. Our world is messed up
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3960 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:37 am to
So the answer to recruiting against other schools with more NIL money is to pay our coach less?

BK’s salary is absolutely irrelevant to the discussion on how to recruit in the NIL era.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2298 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:37 am to
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How much of recruiting is now out of the coaches hands because of NIL money?

Answer: not all players just the great ones (5 stars and high end 4 stars).
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
9483 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:39 am to
He’s a shite recruiter, but a lot of folks are defending him.
Posted by LSUtwolves
Member since Jun 2016
878 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:39 am to
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That’s my point.


I agree with you.

The elite teams will be rich schools/areas that also care about football.

Texas, USC, Michigan, A&M. Georgia too most likely. Oregon if Nike goes hard

If Miami starts caring they’ll be elite too.
Posted by Homer Pelican
Homer la
Member since Dec 2021
1937 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:40 am to
Yea don't pay
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