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just another question on why the Dline has been so ehhh the last couple years
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:48 pm
Very frustrating to say the least considering Coach O and background to understand talent and elevate guys to becoming great. Look not bagging on O but that is what he has been and what always will be a D line guy. That position was a B- this year and scary to think we are sitting on a light class coming in for the position and going to lose the Top Dline guy in the state to Bama. What gives? Not to put O in the same breath to Saban but to make a comparison most coaches like O have their specialty and his hasn't gotten better as the head coach.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:53 pm to AustinKnight
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That position was a B- this year and scary to think we are sitting on a light class coming in for the position and going to lose the Top Dline guy in the state to Bama.
We arent slated to lose any Dlinemen right now, so, it kind of makes sense to only have 1 DLinemen committed right now, they are pursuing to land 1 maybe 2 more.
Wouldnt really make much sense to add 4 defensive linemen if we lose 1 or none. We'd just have a billion defensive linemen at that point.
Next year is going to be a more Dline heavy class, lots of talent in the state and nearby.
As far as Sophser goes, they've done just about everything possible to land him, including being the ONLY school (Still) to have offered his brother who hasnt even played football the last 2 seasons since high school. The fact of the matter is Sopsher and dad are in tight with Pettito and the barber and there's nothing we can really do more than we already have.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:58 pm to thunderbird1100
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We arent slated to lose any Dlinemen right now, so, it kind of makes sense to only have 1 DLinemen committed right now, they are pursuing to land 1 maybe 2 more.
Except it you should recruit DL every year
And 4/6 of the DL we’ve recruited the last 2 havent contributed at all.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:58 pm to thunderbird1100
Don't know the accuracy but someone said Lawrence might head out. Hope not he might not get drafted
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:00 pm to AustinKnight
We’d be fricked if Lawrence and fehoko suedes.
That’s kinda an end of the story statements
Farrell is ok, Logan is decent.
But our depth at DE would blow heavy.
That’s kinda an end of the story statements
Farrell is ok, Logan is decent.
But our depth at DE would blow heavy.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:03 pm to thunderbird1100
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We arent slated to lose any Dlinemen right now, so, it kind of makes sense to only have 1 DLinemen committed right now, they are pursuing to land 1 maybe 2 more.
You moved guys to the Oline that were recruited to dline. So in a sense, they are guys you brought in that will never contribute their.
Dline recruiting has been slacking.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:11 pm to AustinKnight
We missed on Mathis and one ther he thatnwent to FSU. Part of that was because of our coaching and booster and media chaos and negatives. Part of,it was the guy assigned to recruit north Louisiana was not good at all. We missed Biggs as well. Same reasons.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:17 pm to AustinKnight
That was not a B-
I would go B+. Not an A, but very good.
I would go B+. Not an A, but very good.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:18 pm to thunderbird1100
As far as I'm concerned frick that guy. He may be good but fairly obvious he ain't LSU through and through. Again that's where a man like O has experience and recruits talent from anywhere really and coaches them to be great. Lets face it Sopsher aint the only MF than is good out there fellas.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:19 pm to AustinKnight
I think its Meatball. And also the players in this scheme dont fit. Too many times i saw Fehoko trying to play outside contain. He is too stiff and slow to be a perimeter defender. Maybe its just because of the Chaisson injury. Still we need to go after quick penetrating DL instead of slow run gappers.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:25 pm to AustinKnight
LSU will have 3 RS freshmen going into 2019:
Nelson Jenkins DE
Davin Cotton DE
Dominic Livingston NT
Justin Thomas will be a RS soph
We likely return at least 2/3 of Fehoko, Lawrence and Alexander and will have Ferrell and Logan back along with Shelvin. We have one DT commit and probably get at least one more.
Depth won't be an issue. We have no idea how well the younger guys have developed so I'm not sure about quality. One thing was evident and that's without Chaisson we sorely lacked a dynamic pass rusher. Divinity improved as the season progressed, but having a healthy Chaisson back will be huge and make the DL look much better.
Nelson Jenkins DE
Davin Cotton DE
Dominic Livingston NT
Justin Thomas will be a RS soph
We likely return at least 2/3 of Fehoko, Lawrence and Alexander and will have Ferrell and Logan back along with Shelvin. We have one DT commit and probably get at least one more.
Depth won't be an issue. We have no idea how well the younger guys have developed so I'm not sure about quality. One thing was evident and that's without Chaisson we sorely lacked a dynamic pass rusher. Divinity improved as the season progressed, but having a healthy Chaisson back will be huge and make the DL look much better.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:27 pm to AustinKnight
Some of the guys from the '14 class (which was somewhat thin itself on d-line) did not pan out, and they could be RS-SRs this year. Only 2 d-linemen were signed in '15 (one was Key who is a 3-4 LB). That class should be SRs or RS-JRs. That's 2 recruiting classes that gave us little to nothing on the d-line.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:41 pm to AustinKnight
Lack of talent and depth.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 4:03 pm to husslemane
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That's 2 recruiting classes that gave us little to nothing on the d-line.
Nothing an ex DL coach/RC would own, smdh.
One could surmise the DL became worse since Ed's arrival.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 4:10 pm to husslemane
The issue is that the last 2 recruiting classes have barely contributed either.
Farrell is an ok bake up and Shelving played a little more st the end but realistically since 2016 were recruits 1 5* 1 4* and 4 3*
We can’t just not take DL this year.
Farrell is an ok bake up and Shelving played a little more st the end but realistically since 2016 were recruits 1 5* 1 4* and 4 3*
We can’t just not take DL this year.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 4:11 pm to Mayhawman
There's probably enough blame for Miles and O to each get some.
Hopefully Livingston, Cotton and Jenkins give us something but you have to follow that up with a better class this year and then the next. That's how you build depth at a position.
Hopefully Livingston, Cotton and Jenkins give us something but you have to follow that up with a better class this year and then the next. That's how you build depth at a position.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 4:14 pm to SammyTiger
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The issue is that the last 2 recruiting classes have barely contributed either.
I agree. Part of that is them having to be on the field too early and too often. In theory, if the previous DL classes had panned out, the guys who are starting now would be backups, which they probably should be.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 4:52 pm to husslemane
LSU is 28th in Run Defense
It is definitely our weak point and needs to be improved.
The teams that have decent run game really pushed the DL around when they ran the ball.
In some games the pass rush was OK, but the run defense needs to be improved.
If this was the Big 12, I'm not worried, but we play in a conference that runs a lot.
It is definitely our weak point and needs to be improved.
The teams that have decent run game really pushed the DL around when they ran the ball.
In some games the pass rush was OK, but the run defense needs to be improved.
If this was the Big 12, I'm not worried, but we play in a conference that runs a lot.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 4:57 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:Goddamn this is dumb.
Wouldnt really make much sense to add 4 defensive linemen if we lose 1 or none. We'd just have a billion defensive linemen at that point.
Yeah let’s just sign 1 Dlineman, that’ll never bite us in the arse.
Also you should tell Saban your genius strategy, he’s loading up on lineman.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 5:00 pm to thunderbird1100
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We arent slated to lose any Dlinemen right now, so, it kind of makes sense to only have 1 DLinemen committed right now, they are pursuing to land 1 maybe 2 more.
Wouldnt really make much sense to add 4 defensive linemen if we lose 1 or none. We'd just have a billion defensive linemen at that point.
So dline depth? The difference between us and bama is their depth. The difference between this lsu defense and great lsu defenses is depth and the ability to not be gutted by losing 1 player(Klavon). IMO you never stop offering blue chip dlinemen in an attempt to push it to next year.
What happens if we miss on those next year?
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