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Judge Rules In Favor Of Athletes In LSU-SEC Eligibility Battle...Live Updates Inside
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:46 am
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:46 am
Tony Clayton and his team are setting up. Sankey and his team are also setting up. Liz and her team are present. There is a large law enforcement presence in courtroom who will be monitoring cell phone usage and have already announced no usage of phones, laptops etc will be allowed so I'll updates if I can.
UPDATE at 8:04 pm:
Judge is signing to prevent the NCAA and sec from taking any action that would prevent these players from playing
Read updates as they occurred below...
UPDATE at 8:04 pm:
Judge is signing to prevent the NCAA and sec from taking any action that would prevent these players from playing
Read updates as they occurred below...
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 9:11 pm
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:55 am to UnsureTiger
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:03 am to 1999
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:15 am to UnsureTiger
Jason Williams is the first to speak. Saying that the situations of all parties are not the same and cases shouldn't be combined.
SEC should not have to litigate with parties who never participated in sec
SEC should not have to litigate with parties who never participated in sec
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:28 am to UnsureTiger
Judge is showing sec to move forward only defending against sec related parties
Case is moving forward today with that understanding
Ncaa will defend against other parties
Case is moving forward today with that understanding
Ncaa will defend against other parties
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:34 am to UnsureTiger
Ncaa attorney
These athletes last completed under 25/26 manual and exhausted eligiblity under that manual. New does not apply because they never completed under new rules.
New rules are prospective and not retrospective
These athletes last completed under 25/26 manual and exhausted eligiblity under that manual. New does not apply because they never completed under new rules.
New rules are prospective and not retrospective
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:39 am to UnsureTiger
Judge just asked Jason Williams "what is amateurism"
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:42 am to UnsureTiger
Dodged question in amateurism and said he will answer later. Judge said he will want an answer
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 11:43 am
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:46 am to Buryl
Greg Sankey taking the stand now for testimony
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:48 am to UnsureTiger
Tony Clayton questioning sankey
Posted on 9/3/26 at 12:00 pm to UnsureTiger
Asking sankey about chambliss now and his 6 years
Posted on 9/3/26 at 12:02 pm to UnsureTiger
Sankey says chambliss had a medical condition that he can't comment on. Clayton still grilling him
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 9/3/26 at 12:08 pm to UnsureTiger
Asked sankey about 91 basketball overseas pros who are allowed to play in ncaa.
Sankey said they played overseas for clubs and other things that may not specifically be professional leagues.
Sankey also said he does not know the definition of pro for those players
Sankey said they played overseas for clubs and other things that may not specifically be professional leagues.
Sankey also said he does not know the definition of pro for those players
Posted on 9/3/26 at 12:24 pm to Buga
Sankey Said he isn't aware of any particular players situation and it's not an issue about being a pro athlete but he thinks that if a player moves on then they have made their choice and should not be able to come back.
Last question Clayton asked was "do you hate LSU" Williams objected and there was no answer
Last question Clayton asked was "do you hate LSU" Williams objected and there was no answer
Posted on 9/3/26 at 12:25 pm to UnsureTiger
On a quick recess before it continues
Posted on 9/3/26 at 1:07 pm to UnsureTiger
It seems this current attorneys focus is going on the direction of the sec saying that they would not play LSU. He's using examples of former g League players that played for Louisville and Baylor and the sec did not refuse to play those teams.
He is also bringing up those former g League players who have been allowed to play in ncaa but Sankey is saying that is not the sec
He is also bringing up those former g League players who have been allowed to play in ncaa but Sankey is saying that is not the sec
Posted on 9/3/26 at 1:11 pm to IM_4_LSU
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He didn't bring up Bediako? The bama player however you spell his last name?
He was brought up. Sankey said that he went through the process to remove his eligibility as soon as possible because he wasn't comfortable with it
Posted on 9/3/26 at 1:31 pm to jmaclsu
Sankey was talking about a policy and realized he was saying too much. He said "let me stop helping you. I'll stop with that" I can't quote exactly what he was saying. It was about a policy in the manual, but this shows his agenda.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 1:41 pm to UnsureTiger
Second attorney is finished. He did a great job showing bylaws and in the NCAA bylaws he clearly showed how these players should be eligible to play based on the 5 for 5 rule. He got Sankey to admit that the bylaws show that and made Sankey say that he and the sec will follow those bylaws.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 1:54 pm to Red Drum
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Know you're in stealth mode, but need the deets on this. Are you paraphrasing or did we get an Big Daddy -esque ending?
I'm mostly paraphrasing and putting quotes in quotes.
Currently the attorney for the Vanderbilt player is questioning. He questioned several times about will Vanderbilt be punished if the judge rules in his favor they allow this player to play.
Sankey danced around question and his attorney objected. The question had to asked and danced around/objected to at least 5 times.
Then judge said "I get what you're trying to ask and I see that he is not going to answer, but I understand his answer. He is going to follow the rules and the bylaws until the point that he is not going to follow them anymore"
Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:16 pm to UnsureTiger
Sankeys attorney has been questioning him for a while. Line of questioning is focused around how this will ruin the future of college football if teams are allowed to recruit players cut by the NFL as well as players who will be cut from their college teams and replaced by these NFL players.
We know that both of those points are wrong, but that's the direction the Sec is taking.
We know that both of those points are wrong, but that's the direction the Sec is taking.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:23 pm to MintBerry Crunch
Rebuttal time now. Tony is back up
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:03 pm to TDsngumbo
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Done as in rested his case done??
Should have clarified. Done with that witness.
Sankey is off the stand. I think the judge could easily see through everything he was saying and all the dancing that he was doing. First athlete is on the stand now. A female athlete from LSU. They will soon be taking a break to eat.
This might not finish until 8:00 tonight or later at the rate it's going.
Sankey may be called back to the stand after the athletes are finished. I'm not sure if all 12 athletes here will testify or just a few of them.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:14 pm to JayVegas702
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The female athlete being on the stand is interesting, since none of the pro contract complications come into that case
They're doing the two females first because they have games tonight. They're on the soccer team. Both of them are from the class of 22 and are only eligible to play because of this tro
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:29 pm to Fishhead
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:42 pm to Fat Bastard
Posted on 9/3/26 at 4:05 pm to UnsureTiger
Daequan Wright on the stand now
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 9/3/26 at 4:09 pm to UnsureTiger
Daequan says if he would have known he could have stayed in college he would have stayed and he would have made 7 figures in NIL. Says he made 6 figures last year.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 4:21 pm to UnsureTiger
zxavian harris on the stand. Says he only got paid a total of $190 with the saints and never played or practiced. He only rehabbed the whole time
Posted on 9/3/26 at 4:21 pm to UnsureTiger
Over his college career he made about 7 figures
Posted on 9/3/26 at 4:49 pm to CatfishJohn
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Did Bediako or the minicamp guys on rosters get brought up at all with Sankey?
I saw what he said about going to camps loses you the opportunity to come back to college, but Clayton didn't counter with the minicamp thing or Bediako getting $500k and playing 3 years in the G-League?
Bediako was brought up. Sankey said he followed court procedures to remove bediakos eligibility because he did not agree with it from the beginning.
No particular football athlete was brought up. Sankey did say he does not consider mini camp participation to be professional but he does consider training camp participation as making a football player a professional.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 5:21 pm to JPLSU1981
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What a dumbass. He said he didn't even know what the 5 for 5 rule actually said
Do we have a quote on that??
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From live testimony just now in the Pyburn v NCAA hearing:
Mr. Downton: Mr. Sankey, you’ve testified that the SEC follows all NCAA by-laws and incorporates them into your conference’s by-laws, which I appreciate, but did I just hear you say that as the SEC Commissioner, you don’t know what the current NCAA 5 for 5 bylaws that took effect 8/1/26 actually say?
Answer: I don’t. It’s the first time I’ve seen this new manual.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 9/3/26 at 5:36 pm to StTiger
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Is it confirmed Sankey fully left?
Yes he is gone. He left when they were on recess earlier.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 9/3/26 at 5:38 pm to Raging Tiger
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I just wanna know what’s happening in the courtroom
I left for a little bit but I'm back. I'm not sure who this guy is that's on the stand. They're talking about policies. When the 5 for 5 rule began and who was included in that rule. Basically whether the 22 class is included or not.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 5:46 pm to UnsureTiger
All witnesses are done.
Judge is taking a recess until 6.
Will allow attorneys to say what they want to say when he comes back and I'm assuming his ruling will come after that.
Judge is taking a recess until 6.
Will allow attorneys to say what they want to say when he comes back and I'm assuming his ruling will come after that.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:20 pm to UnsureTiger
Attorneys giving their summation. Players attorneys going first. He's laying out examples of players who have played professionally and earned up to 1.1 million in basketball and the NCAA still allowed them to come back and play. Also going over players who have played football for more than 5 years. Reviewing redshirt rules and medical redshirts that have played more than 5 years.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:26 pm to UnsureTiger
Attorney says the sec has never gone away from the NCAA on eligibility and shouldn't be able to do it now.
Also says that if an sec school can't control their fans, and the fans storm the field, then the school gets fined. Therefore, if the sec can't follow an order from the judge then the sec should get fined.
Also says that if an sec school can't control their fans, and the fans storm the field, then the school gets fined. Therefore, if the sec can't follow an order from the judge then the sec should get fined.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:32 pm to UnsureTiger
Tony Clayton's turn. He adopted statements made by previous attorney.
He brought up the statement by the sec about punishing teams that play NFL players and said that is a punishment for these players in reaction to the court's order.
He brought up the Alabama lawsuit and said that is a punitive lawsuit intended to diminish this judges order.
A few more points he made but that's the jist of it.
He brought up the statement by the sec about punishing teams that play NFL players and said that is a punishment for these players in reaction to the court's order.
He brought up the Alabama lawsuit and said that is a punitive lawsuit intended to diminish this judges order.
A few more points he made but that's the jist of it.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:45 pm to UnsureTiger
Ncaa attorney says the players received their manual when they played and under that manual they exhausted their eligibility.
The new manual says the 5 for 5 rule is prospective not retrospective. These players exhausted their eligibility before the 5 for 5 rule existed.
Brought up the basketball players mentioned one from Louisville and another one and says we can't rewrite the rules based on two players. The rules about professional players would have to be rewritten. Lists many other rules that would have to be rewritten.
Judge interrupted and says "well technically I wouldn't have to do none of that"
Attorney says well you have to use the examples they gave and those examples are not clear. You have to show how the NCAA made those decisions and they didn't do that.
A private association can set their own rules and that's what has been done. As members of the institution they have to follow those rules.
These players are better people because they have gone through this system but their eligibility is over. You can't give them someone else's spot
Judge interrupted again saying that when he was a freshman he took a seniors spot and that putting seniors on a team doesn't mean that they will automatically take someone's spot.
Ncaa says well these are all good players and they will take someone's spot.
The new manual says the 5 for 5 rule is prospective not retrospective. These players exhausted their eligibility before the 5 for 5 rule existed.
Brought up the basketball players mentioned one from Louisville and another one and says we can't rewrite the rules based on two players. The rules about professional players would have to be rewritten. Lists many other rules that would have to be rewritten.
Judge interrupted and says "well technically I wouldn't have to do none of that"
Attorney says well you have to use the examples they gave and those examples are not clear. You have to show how the NCAA made those decisions and they didn't do that.
A private association can set their own rules and that's what has been done. As members of the institution they have to follow those rules.
These players are better people because they have gone through this system but their eligibility is over. You can't give them someone else's spot
Judge interrupted again saying that when he was a freshman he took a seniors spot and that putting seniors on a team doesn't mean that they will automatically take someone's spot.
Ncaa says well these are all good players and they will take someone's spot.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:50 pm to UnsureTiger
Ncaa says there are courts who have ruled in their favor and this judge should too.
Says you can't just go to the court's to change rules of a private institution just because you don't like them.
Says you can't just go to the court's to change rules of a private institution just because you don't like them.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:53 pm to UnsureTiger
Sec is up
Says it comes down to the question can the 16 university agree to the standards of their conference. LSU was present at the last meeting and agreed to the standards that the sec wants to uphold.
The announcement to punish schools has nothing to do with individual players. This hearing is about the players not the schools. Sec has not threatened to punish any individual players.
Says it comes down to the question can the 16 university agree to the standards of their conference. LSU was present at the last meeting and agreed to the standards that the sec wants to uphold.
The announcement to punish schools has nothing to do with individual players. This hearing is about the players not the schools. Sec has not threatened to punish any individual players.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:00 pm to UnsureTiger
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Sec is up
Says it comes down to the question can the 16 university agree to the standards of their conference. LSU was present at the last meeting and agreed to the standards that the sec wants to uphold.
The announcement to punish schools has nothing to do with individual players. This hearing is about the players not the schools. Sec has not threatened to punish any individual players.
Says their statement was not made in retaliation to the tro. It was simply a statement made directly from the sec constitution and the constitution is much older than this tro. Sec did not violate a court order but simply reiterated their constitution because that's what they were asked to do by all 16 members. A new rule was not created.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:03 pm to UnsureTiger
Says Clayton jefferies is so fun to watch because he tries to create every advantage, but this is an advantage that we can't allow. We can't allow certain schools to accept former pros when other schools can't. We can't allow schools to scout training camps and recruit guys as soon as they're cut. That's not a fair advantage for all 16 members of the conference
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:15 pm to UnsureTiger
Sec says these players knew that going pro would end their college career. It's always been that way. Going pro ends your college career.
The members are bound by the rules. Lsu is a voluntary member of this conference and are bound by the rules of the conference. Changing the rules now doesn't just affect the players in this case. That affects every single player in this conference.
Ncaa eligibility rules have survived every appellate court to date.
Says this judge doesn't need to solve all of college sports. His job is to decide if going to professional sports ends their ability to participate in collegiate sports.
The opportunity of these athletes does matter, but they aren't the only ones whose opportunity matters. There are high school kids who deserve this opportunity that these players have already had.
That is why all 16 universities agreed to these rules. The rules have not changed. What changed is that someone has decided to test the line.
Sec is finished with their arguments
The members are bound by the rules. Lsu is a voluntary member of this conference and are bound by the rules of the conference. Changing the rules now doesn't just affect the players in this case. That affects every single player in this conference.
Ncaa eligibility rules have survived every appellate court to date.
Says this judge doesn't need to solve all of college sports. His job is to decide if going to professional sports ends their ability to participate in collegiate sports.
The opportunity of these athletes does matter, but they aren't the only ones whose opportunity matters. There are high school kids who deserve this opportunity that these players have already had.
That is why all 16 universities agreed to these rules. The rules have not changed. What changed is that someone has decided to test the line.
Sec is finished with their arguments
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:27 pm to UnsureTiger
Plaintiff rebuttal
This is not about testing the line. The line is not clear between pro and amateur. If the line is so clear then why can't they explain it?
College baseball and softball teams can play exhibitions against pro players. You allow overseas pros to participate in college. G League players are allowed to participate in college. Other examples are given...
These athletes did not make millions. None of them made any real money. One of them got 20k and some of them received a few hundred dollars.
Judge interrupted and said if they voluntarily left and were ultimately cut they knew that this was a possibility of their actions
Attorney says well it's an argument of old rules vs new rules. Under the old rules players were given red shirts and more years but to make it easier let's look at the new rule.
An individuals eligibility gives them 5 years from enrollment or 5 years from their 19th birthday. All of these players are less than 5 years from their 19th birthday. They made these rules and wrote these rules and under their rules these players should be eligible
No other rebuttal. Matter has been submitted to the judge. He will come back with ruling
This is not about testing the line. The line is not clear between pro and amateur. If the line is so clear then why can't they explain it?
College baseball and softball teams can play exhibitions against pro players. You allow overseas pros to participate in college. G League players are allowed to participate in college. Other examples are given...
These athletes did not make millions. None of them made any real money. One of them got 20k and some of them received a few hundred dollars.
Judge interrupted and said if they voluntarily left and were ultimately cut they knew that this was a possibility of their actions
Attorney says well it's an argument of old rules vs new rules. Under the old rules players were given red shirts and more years but to make it easier let's look at the new rule.
An individuals eligibility gives them 5 years from enrollment or 5 years from their 19th birthday. All of these players are less than 5 years from their 19th birthday. They made these rules and wrote these rules and under their rules these players should be eligible
No other rebuttal. Matter has been submitted to the judge. He will come back with ruling
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:36 pm to HarryHoudini
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Did they not mention why the sec is ignoring other schools like Texas having players coming back? If declaring to go pro is what ends your career then great but other schools it’s ok?
Only heard texas mentioned once and it was very quick. For some reason they never brought that up
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:41 pm to The Egg
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under Sankey's definition of 'if you move on, you're gone,' that would have been exhibit A through Z as to how the SEC has selectively enforced these rules
Sec attorney made that argument but sankey danced around it. Said mini camp is not pro but training camp is and also said signing a contract makes you pro
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:50 pm to UnsureTiger
Judge back on bench about to give ruling
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:04 pm to UnsureTiger
Cited jones b ncaa
Said he was sceptical of what the players were trying to do especially since it's being done so late in the game.
The distinction of what's professional and what's not makes no sense. College facilities are as good as it better than NFL.
I got $190 is that professional? I got a $25k contract but in college I got six figures. What is a professional?
I was skeptical but then something happened. Y'all brought up rule 12.6. Sankey said it himself the rules did not say that these players are excluded.
Good on talking about different things
He did find that there are some damages.
He is signing to prevent the NCAA and sec from taking any action that would prevent these players from playing
Said he was sceptical of what the players were trying to do especially since it's being done so late in the game.
The distinction of what's professional and what's not makes no sense. College facilities are as good as it better than NFL.
I got $190 is that professional? I got a $25k contract but in college I got six figures. What is a professional?
I was skeptical but then something happened. Y'all brought up rule 12.6. Sankey said it himself the rules did not say that these players are excluded.
Good on talking about different things
He did find that there are some damages.
He is signing to prevent the NCAA and sec from taking any action that would prevent these players from playing
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:05 pm to UnsureTiger
He is denying a stay if they request a stay
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:48 am to UnsureTiger
LFG
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:48 am to UnsureTiger
so no live stream or anything?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:48 am to UnsureTiger
What are you updating with?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:48 am to UnsureTiger
Any baws pregaming outside the courthouse?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:48 am to catholictigerfan
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so no live stream or anything?
This isn’t Judge Judy baw
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:49 am to tigerskin
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What are you updating with?
Baw got that Elon cyber chip implanted
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:49 am to tigerskin
He’ll probably get kicked out.
Hope not
Hope not
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:50 am to UnsureTiger
Do you have your popcorn ready?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:51 am to UnsureTiger
And to think that we’re all on pins and needles waiting to see if guys 20 years younger than us can give us 12 weeks of fun, winning football.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:51 am to UnsureTiger
How’s the tailgating?
Any RV’s set up outside?
Any RV’s set up outside?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:51 am to UnsureTiger
Somebody close by? Any tall trees around? I know some of yall have deer stands,
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:52 am to Circle K Beggar
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And to think that we’re all on pins and needles waiting to see if guys 20 years younger than us can give us 12 weeks of fun, winning football.
23*
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:53 am to tigerskin
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What are you updating with?
My phone right now but once it starts it may be difficult. Courtroom is packed and no one else is being allowed in.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:55 am to UnsureTiger
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:55 am to 1999
Sticky!
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:56 am to UnsureTiger
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UnsureTiger
I got a $1,000 if you crank up Neck on your phone mid hearing.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:56 am to UnsureTiger
Word is that this hearing will take several hours and will be only oral arguments with no testimony.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:56 am to UnsureTiger
Apple Watch
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:57 am to UnsureTiger
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