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re: Jordan Jefferson's aunt speaks (WGNO link)

Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:08 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26274 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:08 pm to
Just saying. Maybe he just sort of ground his face in the ground and didn't kick him hard. I don't know! I am not a big guy but I think if I kicked you in the head you wouldn't be refusing a ride to the hospital, unless I held back.

Not that it is relevant to the case but personally all I care about is who started it. You start shite with me and you bring it all on yourself.
Posted by TickledTiger
Down & Out
Member since Dec 2007
2837 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:09 pm to
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The Jeffersons want to involve the NAACP and FBI? Seriously, Jeffersons? And to say "he's more qualified" than Lee? Stupidity must run in that family.

I also don't like it if players actually boycotted team meetings before the Oregon game and Les had to convince them to take the field as the news clip said. I wonder if the aunt just made that shite up?


I think the whole interview is an attempt to create drama and dissension within the team. There is obviously great disappointment in the Jefferson camp that the team is achieving success without JJ. I can't imagine that this public display aided their cause with Les or within the LSU AD.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78508 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:11 pm to
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my point was made already in that you claimed Wing's victim was asleep and he clearly wasn't


No your point was this:
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Wing wasn't accused of kicking someone in the face while he's laying on the ground was he? No comparison whatsoever

And the quote from the article that you conveniently left out proves your point wrong.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52505 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:12 pm to
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Not that it is relevant to the case but personally all I care about is who started it. You start shite with me and you bring it all on yourself.
I agree. If JJ is innocent he should be reinstated immediately. However if he did indeed provoke the fight or go nuts on Lowery's arse after he was already defenseless he should be punished accordingly
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52505 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:14 pm to
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saintsfan22
did you not say the victim was asleep and defenseless?
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78508 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:15 pm to
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did you not say the victim was asleep and defenseless?


Yes I was incorrect he was on the ground and then kicked much like Lowery. I'm sure the injuries weren't the same but the situations sound similar.
This post was edited on 9/16/11 at 11:17 pm
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52505 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:21 pm to
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Yes I was incorrect he was on the ground and then kicked much like Lowery.
Did Chabert receive any broken bones or bruises from the fight? Let me guess, he's in a wheel chair now? Like I said before, the 2 situations are not related. One instance was much more violent than the other and any competent fool could realize that
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52505 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:23 pm to
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I'm sure the injuries weren't the same but the situations sound similar.
touché
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78508 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:24 pm to
Exactly
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4798 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:32 pm to
Was it his Auntee that said this?
Posted by Dallas Tiger
Dallas
Member since Mar 2006
15080 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:33 pm to
It's times like these I'm glad I live in Texas.
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10369 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:11 am to
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his aunt sounds pretty dumb



But, she used to be a hell of a kick boxer....
Posted by icebergrich
ponchatoula (386)
Member since Dec 2007
265 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:17 am to
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Not that it is relevant to the case but personally all I care about is who started it. You start shite with me and you bring it all on yourself.
This
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You really think that a 150 pound guy started a fight with our football team? JJ towers over him and has around 90 lbs on him.


Are you talking about the guy in the video that harassing that girl, who had a restraining order on him, right before punched another guy in the face? If so, YES.
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I would also disagree with you opinion here. If JJ in fact "kicked this guys arse" while he was breaking curfew less then two weeks before the biggest home opener in recent memory, he is getting exactly what he deserves. Those are not the actions of a senior "leader" and starting QB.
sometimes things aren't just in black n white. Its a tradition for the players to go out the last day of camp, the weekend before school starts. You don't know what was said to provoke JJ, if he indeed did kick Lowery.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:20 am to
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I think that JJ did whoop his arse, but the a-hole started it and cried foul when he got his arse beat.


Interesting take. I'll factor your conjecture in with the witnesses who have in no uncertain terms given an account of the players being the aggressors.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78508 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:51 am to
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I'll factor your conjecture in with the witnesses who have in no uncertain terms given an account of the players being the aggressors.

What about the witnesses who say the opposite?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295799 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:53 am to
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It's times like these I'm glad I live in Texas.


I don't even know what this has to do with the situation.
Posted by Housplants
Germantown, TN
Member since Dec 2006
1466 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:59 am to
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Its a tradition for the players to go out the last day of camp


Maybe so. A big part of that tradition is to not embarrass the coaching staff and the team by getting into trouble while breaking their curfew.

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You don't know what was said to provoke JJ


If I was the coach, it would not matter what what said. I would expect my team leader to put his ego aside.

As a fan, I hope that our players (not just JJ) don't get the jollies by getting into fights with people that are incredibly overmatched (which includes almost anyone they could encounter at a bar). What possible payoff is there for the player. There is certainly nothing admirable about winning such a fight.
Posted by icebergrich
ponchatoula (386)
Member since Dec 2007
265 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:05 am to
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What about the witnesses who say the opposite?
They haven't been interviewed by BRPD yet. that's the problem. I think that the accuser only had one witness, and that there's 20 to 25 witnesses willing to testify that JJ was not the aggressor.(Two employees that work for the bar) BRPD was in a hurry to arrest him, but are now taking their time to interview other witnesses.
Posted by BayouBengals37
West Monroe
Member since Sep 2007
131 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:08 am to
jcole4lsu.... how can i take this guy serious if he has a cm punk quote as his signature? what a loser!
Posted by icebergrich
ponchatoula (386)
Member since Dec 2007
265 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:15 am to
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If I was the coach, it would not matter what what said. I would expect my team leader to put his ego aside. As a fan, I hope that our players (not just JJ) don't get the jollies by getting into fights with people that are incredibly overmatched (which includes almost anyone they could encounter at a bar). What possible payoff is there for the player. There is certainly nothing admirable about winning such a fight.
easier said than done. I'm not sure how i would've reacted @ that age. Boys will be boys. It was a fight. I personally saw Kevin Faulk, Robert Royal, Fred Booker and some more players beat the shite out of a few of Southern's football team in the late 90's. southern got their arse whipped licked their wounds and they were all parting together a few weeks later. This was over policed. the guy didnt even want to go to the hospital until his daddy made him.
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