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re: Jordan Jefferson was a good QB. Change my mind.

Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:49 pm to
He was actually a very good runner that moved the offense well with his feet and LSU's other RB weapons in the backfield. He had some success against Bama doing that. Only Les would think it could work twice against the same team. That said, in 2011 the LSU clicked way more with Lee in. It was WAY more efficient. The way Les treated that guy was bullshite. You could see him on the sidelines when he was benched in favor of Jefferson it looked like Lee snorted a line of coke.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:49 pm to
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Yeah and still though the defense was good enough to beat bama twice AFTER the 2008 change.


FIFY
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:51 pm to
Jefferson threw for 2,166 yards with 17 TDs and 7 INTs in 2009. 2009 was by far his best season as a Sophomore and he showed a lot of promise of improving. Jefferson’s 2009 was on par with Jamarcus Russell’s 2005.

But he just got worse in 2010 and 2011.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78195 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:53 pm to
All of his career stats sucked.

And he blew games

Done
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:53 pm to
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His 2009 season was actually serviceable.


He was very good in 2009, especially considering we couldn’t run the ball for shite.


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His 2010 season was just awful. A complete load of shite.


Yes it was.


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His 2011 was pretty bad except for the Arkansas game.


No, it was pretty good except for UGA and BCSCG.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:53 pm to
Man that stretch he had in 2010 was the worst I've personally seen
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:54 pm to
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Started 32 games, won 25 of them. 4,733 yards passing 34 TDs 20 INTs 58.6% 1,018 yards rushing 12 TDs


That’s great. Want to figure out what those averages are? I’ll help

Roughly..
150 yards passing
1 passing TD
30 yards rushing
0.3 rushing TDs

That’s awful when you factor in how many scrubs he played in there. You blame us for expecting better? At what point would his averages be unacceptable? 50 yards passing?
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:54 pm to
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Florida 2010


Jarrett Lee had to come in to bail him out just like he did at Tennessee.

Posted by biggdogg
United States
Member since May 2008
1895 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:56 pm to
He was good could have been better but outside pressure and LM hindered his development. I don’t think his skill improved much while he was here
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:58 pm to
He had a good Sophmore year.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175694 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:59 pm to
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No, it was pretty good except for UGA and BCSCG.

The frick you talking about?

He didn’t play until the Kentucky game.

He threw 0 passes against Kentucky, 4 against Florida, 3 against Tennessee, 3 against Auburn, 10 against Alabama, (he was now the starter) he went 8-14 against Western Kentucky in what was a boring abortion of a game, and threw 7 passes against Ole Miss.

Then he had a great game against Arkansas like I said.

Then finished it off with two abortions against Georgia and Alabama.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:00 pm to
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Jarrett Lee had to come in to bail him out just like he did at Tennessee.



No.

Lee bailed him out against Tennessee for sure, even he but both Lee and JJ played great and contributed to that huge UF win.

Lee was amazing on the game winning drive though for sure.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33351 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:00 pm to
1/9/12

















and the SECCG of '11
Posted by Waterboy1972
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
1142 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:04 pm to
1/9/12
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22097 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:05 pm to
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The frick you talking about?




These are his numbers for 2011.

61 100 61.0 737 7.4 7.7 6 2 138.7


Even with the two abortions his rating was still better than 09, which you said was serviceable

He was great against Alabama in TGOTC, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Auburn. Pretty good against UT, and WKU.

I said he was “pretty good” outside of those final two games.

Not sure why so testy
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:06 pm to
Professional football didn't think he was very good.

Undrafted by the NFL
Waived after 4 days with the Tampa Bay Bucs
Made the practice squad of a CFL team
Played one year Arena League
Played one year FXFL
Career over

What other evidence do you need? Jefferson had the luxury of playing on some very good teams at LSU, and he was only moderately effective on those teams. He didn't have the talent to be a pro QB at any level.
This post was edited on 9/5/18 at 11:07 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175694 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:07 pm to
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He was great against Alabama in TGOTC, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Auburn. Pretty good against UT, and WKU.

He didn’t throw enough passes outside of the Arkansas game to be truly measured in any of those. Which is why his only action as the true full quarterback from Western Kentucky to 1/9 is what you can use to grade him.
Posted by philly444
stuck in contraflow
Member since Nov 2008
12179 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:08 pm to
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Jordan Jefferson was a good QB. Change my mind.


Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:11 pm to
Let's bear in mind he played with future NFL receivers like Brandon LaFell, Reuben Randle, and Odell Beckham, Jr. And even with those guys to throw to, Jefferson was a sub-60% career passer at LSU.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22097 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:15 pm to
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He didn’t throw enough passes outside of the Arkansas game to be truly measured in any of those. Which is why his only action as the true full quarterback from Western Kentucky to 1/9 is what you can use to grade him.



You can’t include TGOTC in grading JJs ‘11 season?? Ole Miss was after that as well and he went 7/7 88 TD and rushed for 26 in a bludgeoning in Oxford when we were up 35-0 before halftime.

Hell, he ran 14 times for 73 yards and a badass TD against UT.


Considering how great he played against Arkansas, he was pretty good in 11. Not sure why that’s such an arguable statement.
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