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Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:17 pm to ZTiger87
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Thank god Les didn't give that whiny a-hole anymore meaningful playing time.
You are one ignorant motherfricker if you actually think that. Lee has never whined one time in his career at lsu.
Lee has been nothing but class during his time at lsu, lows and highs.
Meanwhile JJ was a fingerpointing, selfish, egotistical, miserable excuse for a leader.
And it was blatantly obvious On jan 9th when he got up in wares face for this gem:
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:25 pm to ZTiger87
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Obviously Lee couldn't handle getting benched against Bama and having JJ come in and help win the game. You could tell by the pouting Lee did on the sideline in the remainder of the games. Thank god Les didn't give that whiny a-hole anymore meaningful playing time.
If you believe otherwise, you are just as big of a whiny a-hole as JL.
What a load of shite.
JJ couldn't handle JL rescuing his arse last year, or leading the team to an undefeated season.
JJ was only content being the starter win or lose. He even said similar words as Bama did about "restoring order." Once he was there everything was back to normal, where it should be in his mind. He played great remember so it was everybody else who sucked in his eyes.
This post was edited on 1/22/12 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:31 pm to siliconvalleytiger
quote:What is so indefensible about this.
Yes, but 7ward seems to be defending the coaching decision in that game. I just think not giving JL a shot at all is pretty indefensible which 7ward seems to be able to rationalize in his head.
This is what i want you to do. Take a deep breath. It's Jan 9, 2012, you're Les Miles. You're down 15-0 to Bama with the entire 4th quarter left. Nothing has worked so far. You can't run the ball. You're not having any success in the passing game. You've been in eerily similar situations the past 2 games, where a Special teams score and some defensive plays sparks your offense and you rattle off 40+ points straight.
You have yet to have that "spark" in this game. Even your Special teams are faltering in both punt coverage and punting. Your turnover machine defense cannot manufacture a turnover, but they are still playing well and keeping the offense out of the endzone. Your starting qb is struggling along with the entire offense. You look over at your back up qb. You look back out at the field and you see the same team that caused your back up qb to lose his starting job just 5 games before on Nov 5, as they flustered him to the tune of 2 completions to both teams.
Do you put him in? Or do you, and I'm gonna use a saying that ran rampant on here between Nov 5 and Nov 12, "dance with the date who brought you". Do you put in the RS Sophomore who hasn't thrown a pass against SEC competition? What do you do?
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:33 pm to FleurDeLonestar
Les should've played him late in the season but it was probably best for his career
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:38 pm to 7thWardTiger
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which was the EXACT same situation we were in the previous 2 games before we got the spark and started rolling.
Wow. You have horrific arguments. The argument for keeping in Jefferson in one of the worst performances I've ever seen was that you were waiting for a special teams or defensive big play to turn the game?
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:40 pm to TheDoc
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You are one ignorant motherfricker if you actually think that.
Obviously I don't. But it is just as ridiculous to think JJ would rather lose than get benched.
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Meanwhile JJ was a fingerpointing, selfish, egotistical, miserable excuse for a leader.
You are one ignorant motherfricker if you actually think that.
quote:
And it was blatantly obvious On jan 9th when he got up in wares face for this gem:
But he didn't get in Ware's face.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:42 pm to ZTiger87
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But he didn't get in Ware's face.
They certainly weren't discussing after game social activities.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:42 pm to BeeFense5
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I can't believe that anyone would actually believe that Jefferson would rather lose
Well, are you talkin' bout sane/rational "anyone"'s or "Rudy"?
Some seem to have no limit to the number of lbs of flesh they want cause we played poorly and Bama stuffed our game plan.
Really, some of us need to get a life and move on.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:43 pm to ChewyDante
quote:Apparently, 7th Ward's argument for keeping JJ in the Bama game is basically this.
Wow. You have horrific arguments. The argument for keeping in Jefferson in one of the worst performances I've ever seen was that you were waiting for a special teams or defensive big play to turn the game?
"We won the last two times JJ played shitty for half the game so let's hope for that again!!!"
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:45 pm to ZTiger87
quote:Anyone who watched LSU play for the last 3 years knows JJ is one serious finger pointing mother fricker. The ignorance is with anyone who pretends to have not noticed. I mean, ya know, they have cameras nowadays. I suppose you could pretend it weren't true if you lived in 1920 but now, we actually get to watch it happen!!!
Meanwhile JJ was a fingerpointing, selfish, egotistical, miserable excuse for a leader.
You are one ignorant motherfricker if you actually think that.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:51 pm to ShortyRob
quote:that's exactly what it is, and apparently its exactly how Les Miles saw it as well.
Apparently, 7th Ward's argument for keeping JJ in the Bama game is basically this.
"We won the last two times JJ played shitty for half the game so let's hope for that again!!!"
quote:didn't look to see who i was replying to. no use in trying to explain stuff to you in the way coaches evaluate things. Jefferson Bad. Lee Great. Miles Dumbass. Rob is the man
ShortyRob
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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They certainly weren't discussing after game social activities.
He gave Ware a "WTF" look. He didn't even get off his knees. To say he got in his face would be a lie.
quote:
Anyone who watched LSU play for the last 3 years knows JJ is one serious finger pointing mother fricker. The ignorance is with anyone who pretends to have not noticed. I mean, ya know, they have cameras nowadays. I suppose you could pretend it weren't true if you lived in 1920 but now, we actually get to watch it happen!!!
When did he point fingers? Showing emotion after a bad play does not mean someone is pointing fingers. If you want to call him delusional because of some the post game comments he made, then sure. To say he is a bad leader is silly. There are quotes that directly refute that he is a bad leader. But omg he gives a face I don't like sometimes! He is terrible!
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:56 pm to ZTiger87
Leader and jj shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 3:38 pm to 7thWardTiger
It's not the defense or special teams job to score. It's the offense. And when they are ineffective you have to make a change. No excuses for making 0 adjustments Jan 9
Posted on 1/22/12 at 3:50 pm to ZTiger87
What quotes are you referring to that show evidence of JJ actually being a leader? Is it the one from Shep which stated all JJ's problems are mental? Or the confrontation between Tolliver and Les which has been confirmed by Gordy and Charlie last year when Tolliver asked why everyone but JJ had to earn their playing time?
As for Lonnie agreeing with Beefense what a shock! Have u guys ever disagreed or had a different opionion amongst u? Especially when discussing JJ??????????
As for Lonnie agreeing with Beefense what a shock! Have u guys ever disagreed or had a different opionion amongst u? Especially when discussing JJ??????????
Posted on 1/22/12 at 3:57 pm to 7thWardTiger
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Your starting qb is struggling along with the entire offense. You look over at your back up qb. You look back out at the field and you see the same team that caused your back up qb to lose his starting job just 5 games before on Nov 5, as they flustered him to the tune of 2 completions to both teams.
Something tells me you're on the Miles payroll
. Go back and look at the JJ interception and tell me how that pass wasn't infinitely worse than anything Lee threw against Bama on Nov. 5. If I'm head coach, that play warrants someone's arse sitting on the bench. It might only be for a series, but that kind of lack of awareness deserves bench time. And the worst thing is that if JJ had any awareness at all, he would have realized he could have turned that into a huge play by running it ... he already had Ware as a lead blocker.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 5:14 pm to 1984Tiger
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JJ had any awareness at all
JJ and awareness in the same sentence
:lol: :lol:Posted on 1/22/12 at 5:15 pm to Rudy40
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JJ and awareness in the same sentence
Sorry ... my bad.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 12:15 pm to FleurDeLonestar
Sure this poem is posted in every locker room in the country. Always think about it when thiking about JL.
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If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;
If you can dream---and not make dreams your master;
If you can think---and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same:.
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build'em up with worn-out tools;
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings,
And never breathe a word about your loss:
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!
If
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If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;
If you can dream---and not make dreams your master;
If you can think---and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same:.
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build'em up with worn-out tools;
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings,
And never breathe a word about your loss:
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!
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