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re: Jefferson isn't showing good accuracy in this video
Posted on 8/18/10 at 4:48 pm to Bonjourno
Posted on 8/18/10 at 4:48 pm to Bonjourno
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That write up sounds a little far fetched. The guy is talking up JJ no matter what. And from the videos we've seen JJ has been far from the perfection that guy claims
Remember Media does not see the whole practice.... I can say without a shred of doubt that you want JJ not JL.
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Posted on 8/18/10 at 4:49 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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Big EZ Tiger
son, you need to read the entire thread before coming in with this trash
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Remember losing 31-3 to Troy before JJ punched it in the end zone?
Lee was trash in the first half, but if you think Jefferson brought us back, you are sorely incorrect.
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JJ isn't lighting the world on fire, but that was somewhat expected given the situation. People will expect more out of him this year.
Why did you personally have such fricking lofty expectations for Lee in '08? He was the same age in '08 as JJ was in '09, with the same amount of time in Crowton's offense.
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JJ is our QB. If he loses one early and continues to struggle, then you put in JL to see if he can provide a spark.
If you're saying this, then why the hell do you bash him like you never want him in again with statements like:
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Did you watch the La. Tech game Einstein?
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But I'll go another step, have you watched his last 7-8 starts where he has not had one solid game.
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Because the games that they play in the stadium are the ones that count. Those are what we mostly judge them by.
This post was edited on 8/18/10 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 8/18/10 at 4:50 pm to geauxaddai
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JJ is still JJ and JL is still JL. My $0.02.
Maybe only $.02 but pretty accurate. Lees biggest problem has been locating the FS on many occasions. But as far as putting the ball downfield Lee is the better of the two. We'll see....
Posted on 8/18/10 at 4:52 pm to BayAreaTigerFan
quote:After watching this video with an open mind, and unbiased approach I can come to certain conclusions:
Jefferson isn't showing good accuracy in this video
JL will start by 2nd half
LINK
this video was previously posted
1) All QB's are doing a good job getting the ball out of their hands. . .in practice.
2) Only 3 passes hit the WR in stride. . .and 2 were from Zach Lee (one from JL on the short posts). WR's had to adjust their routes for all passes on the deep routes, except for 2 thrown by Zach. . .in practice.
3) Accuracy and timing can be worked on, I wouldn't be too concerned. Pocket presence and internal clock are the more important factors to look at, and all of them seemed to be doing well there.
4) We need to know one of 2 things from either QB to have a special season:
4A) JL: Can he overcome the Howard/Richey mental block that keeps him from performing? If he can, he is a horse we can ride all the way.
4B) JJ: If this kid develops a modicum of pocket presence and internal timing, he could end up an an All-SEC team. Kid has scary tools, he has just been poorly coached.
Both QB's have question marks. I tend to side with Jefferson in the QB argument because his mistakes are the easiest to correct. Will they be corrected? I don't have much faith in our coaching staff to do so, but I hope they have.
JL could be a special QB, but mental deficiencies are unpredictable, and unfortunately usually permanent.
I hope one overcomes. . .because if it happens, and the OL plays worth a damn. . .we could play for it all.
Keep in mind that despite how badly you think last season went, we were a bad INT review, and a poorly managed minute and a half from winning the west.
This post was edited on 8/18/10 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 8/18/10 at 4:56 pm to Roaad
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4) We need to know one of 2 things from either QB to have a special season:
4A) JL: Can he overcome the Howard/Richey mental block that keeps him from performing? If he can, he is a horse we can ride all the way.
4B) JJ: If this kid develops a modicum of pocket presence and internal timing, he could end up an an All-SEC team. Kid has scary tools, he has just been poorly coached.
:kige:
Posted on 8/18/10 at 4:57 pm to CP3LSU25
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Why do we have the 2 worst junior QB in the nation
Probably because idiot fans like you have no clue. You have no idea what does or doesn't make a good quarterback. You just spout shite because it makes you feel like you know somehting.
Here's a hint.
You don't.
Posted on 8/18/10 at 4:58 pm to Roaad
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4) We need to know one of 2 things from either QB to have a special season:
4A) JL: Can he overcome the Howard/Richey mental block that keeps him from performing? If he can, he is a horse we can ride all the way.
4B) JJ: If this kid develops a modicum of pocket presence and internal timing, he could end up an an All-SEC team. Kid has scary tools, he has just been poorly coached.
i agree with this, i tend to side on Lees side personally because i feel the reward of him shining is much higher than the reward of JJ shining, but it is at the risk of Lees low which is much much worse than JJs low point
Posted on 8/18/10 at 5:02 pm to Roaad
solid post !
absolutely
for sure. with decent , respectable OL play & decent QB play this team could be very good this year. my fingers are crossed for both
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Both QB's have question marks.
absolutely
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I hope one overcomes. . .because if it happens, and the OL plays worth a damn. . .we could play for it all.
for sure. with decent , respectable OL play & decent QB play this team could be very good this year. my fingers are crossed for both
Posted on 8/18/10 at 5:04 pm to learnthehardway
quote:To be completely candid: Solid OL play is the more important factor.
respectable OL play & decent QB play this team could be very good this year. my fingers are crossed for both
Solid OL play can hide a mediocre QB. Look at Bama's ginger.
Posted on 8/18/10 at 5:10 pm to Roaad
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To be completely candid: Solid OL play is the more important factor.
agreed. we are also gonna HAVE TO be able to run the ball better this year and this wont happen if the OL doesnt do a better job of holding its own.
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Look at Bama's ginger.
McElroy is certainly not a world beater
Posted on 8/18/10 at 5:15 pm to Boh
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4th downs disagree... that was the basis of that argument
Which have been rare last year to bolster the sack versus turnover argument in context of our QB problems. However, hypothetically, that would the the exception.
This post was edited on 8/18/10 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 8/18/10 at 5:34 pm to Boh
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son, you need to read the entire thread before coming in with this trash
First of all pops, I'm not your son. Second, I'm having trouble seeing why what I say is trash. Third, although I have read the entire thread, why do I "need to read the entire thread" before posting? So I can read more gems like this from the thread starter:
" He doesn't want to be the reason for failure thats why he fricking crys after every bad play."
Exactly.
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Lee was trash in the first half, but if you think Jefferson brought us back, you are sorely incorrect.
Did I say ANYWHERE that Jefferson was solely responsible for bringing us back against Troy State? NO. I said we were losing 31-3 before JJ punched it in. Lee was bad for basically 3 quarters in that one. But it was 4th and goal at the end of the 3rd quarter and we could not get it in. The game came down to if we could get it in at that point. They put JJ in, I believe he ran the option and he finally got us in the end zone for the first time in that game. Lee did really good in the 4th, but although JJ didn't do a lot in the game, he got us the TD and provided the spark. Facts are facts. We needed him to help win it.
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Why did you personally have such fricking lofty expectations for Lee in '08? He was the same age in '08 as JJ was in '09, with the same amount of time in Crowton's offense.
Who said I had lofty expectations for lee in '08? You brought up age, not me. Lee was in a tough situation as well. I can somewhat forget about the pick 6 stuff because he was just a RS freshman. But I do take it into account when looking at what he's done on the field because we don't have a lot of other stuff to draw from. There is La. Tech and his freshman year for the most part. Because let's face it, JJ had his first real year last year other than two games at the end of the season the year before. It certainly doesn't stop y'all from judging him on last year.
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If you're saying this, then why the hell do you bash him like you never want him in again with statements like:
Pleaaaaaase... I don't see a lot of bashing by me in this thread. I called the poster "Einstein" and asked if he watched the La. Tech game. Was that accuracy in that game? No. It was one of the most inaccurate games I've ever seen a QB have. Has he had a solid game in the last 7-8 outings? No. I'm just stating obvious details to support my stance. I'm not trying to bash him. I want him to do great. But he hasn't warranted playing time by his last number of performances. That's all. This year might be totally different. But practice is not the game. If he practices better than JJ consistently, it should mean that if JJ loses a game starting off the season and looks bad, then JL should come in sooner because he's at least showing something in practice. If he doesn't do it when he gets in the game though, it's tough to support putting him in the game so fast.
Posted on 8/18/10 at 5:46 pm to Big EZ Tiger
the only thing i can't figure is the new found love fest for JL since after 08 just about everyone of us wanted to burn him at the stake
and most of us had the same idea of JJ last year
and all the tlak about oo well JL could improve from freshman to junior. you are absolutly correct so why can't JJ improve and looking at a small vid of one drill in one practice cannot tell you how either is doing only game time
and for that JL didnt show much improvement last year so we will see if JJ does and if not then i would be glad to see JL get his shot at it
and most of us had the same idea of JJ last year
and all the tlak about oo well JL could improve from freshman to junior. you are absolutly correct so why can't JJ improve and looking at a small vid of one drill in one practice cannot tell you how either is doing only game time
and for that JL didnt show much improvement last year so we will see if JJ does and if not then i would be glad to see JL get his shot at it
Posted on 8/18/10 at 5:49 pm to Big EZ Tiger
Hello my son did this
quote:rub you the wrong way.
" He doesn't want to be the reason for failure thats why he fricking crys after every bad play."
Posted on 8/18/10 at 5:49 pm to Big EZ Tiger
Hello my son did this
quote:rub you the wrong way.
" He doesn't want to be the reason for failure thats why he fricking crys after every bad play."
Posted on 8/18/10 at 6:04 pm to BayAreaTigerFan
Not sure I understand that post...
Posted on 8/18/10 at 6:10 pm to Gus Tinsley
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JJ is still JJ and JL is still JL
this..best post of the off season imo
This post was edited on 8/18/10 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 8/18/10 at 6:10 pm to TigerDat
because JJ doesn't look like he is progressing in practice or scrimmages. I know its not games but JJ doesn't look NFL caliber in games and neither does JL from his previous starts but he has shown progression in practice and seems to look the part of mentally understanding the game more than JJ,
Posted on 8/18/10 at 6:16 pm to BayAreaTigerFan
Leadership is what we need. His accuracy is good enough.
Posted on 8/18/10 at 6:17 pm to BayAreaTigerFan
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because JJ doesn't look like he is progressing in practice or scrimmages. I know its not games but JJ doesn't look NFL caliber in games and neither does JL from his previous starts but he has shown progression in practice
This
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