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re: Jefferson is the first to admit that he has to do a better
Posted on 3/26/10 at 2:07 pm to LSU NO Tigah
Posted on 3/26/10 at 2:07 pm to LSU NO Tigah
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He said first-year passing game coordinator Billy Gonzales, who came over from Florida, has helped him to make quicker decisions. “He came in with a lot of pass packages and broke the passing game down a lot for me,” Jefferson said. “He’s made it a lot easier for me. It’s based on one read, and you don’t have to make too many reads. We have a good mixture of coach Gonzales and coach [Gary] Crowton, and I think our passing game will be way better than it was last year.”
Well here we go again, having to further "Water Down" the offense for the JUNIOR starting QB. How can you have any kind of decent passing game based on just one read? Gonzales making things simpler tells us all that EITHER Crowton's offense was way too complicated for Jefferson (And JL as well) to understand or that they just don't have what it takes to grasp it.
Hey, here's a novel idea, why don't we recruit a QB (Like a Tommy Hodson) that can come in and grasp things quickly and run what the coaches want to run so we don't have to "Simplify and water down" everything in order to have success on the field.
Talk is cheap though. 2010 is "Put up or shut up" time for the offense. We've got two junior QB's, bigger/stronger/more experienced OL and talent out the arse at RB + WR. Just too much talent there to not rack up the yardage and touchdowns.......
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Posted on 3/26/10 at 2:08 pm to TigerBandAlumnus82
the problem with the team is the coaching clusterfrick/incompetence rather than players' abilities IMO
Posted on 3/26/10 at 2:52 pm to Boh
I know the past two seasons have not been great. But we did go through coaching adjustments and lost our QB. I am excited about the new coaches coming in and with the talent we have now. More of that number one class will be seeing the field and I think we will be overall improved. I also think Miles know he has to right the ship ASAP or else. Which would explain the BG and FW hires. Not to mention the new addition at TE coach.
I think the offensive line really held us back last year. I think if we work out the kinks and they can gel we could be very dangerous on offense. I don't think the offensive line allowed Miles and Crowton to do what they needed to do esp with inexperience behind center. I agree this is put up or shut up year for the O. I think they really try and step it up.
I think the offensive line really held us back last year. I think if we work out the kinks and they can gel we could be very dangerous on offense. I don't think the offensive line allowed Miles and Crowton to do what they needed to do esp with inexperience behind center. I agree this is put up or shut up year for the O. I think they really try and step it up.
Posted on 3/26/10 at 4:41 pm to BigDropper
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I’ve done a lot of film work this summer
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Miles has made it very clear to Jefferson that he still wants to see more separation between him and the rest of the pack at quarterback,
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“We just want to see him be more consistent and more accurate,” Miles said.
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Miles also thinks the Tigers probably put undue pressure on Jefferson by trying to throw the ball too much.
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“He’s made it a lot easier for me. It’s based on one read, and you don’t have to make too many reads.
We are in big trouble
Posted on 3/26/10 at 5:02 pm to RobbBobb
Why is that?
Posted on 3/26/10 at 5:07 pm to TheDoc
If you ain't complaining, you ain't posting properly. Oh, and they're all idiots. 
Posted on 3/26/10 at 5:09 pm to Boh
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the problem with the team is the coaching clusterfrick/incompetence rather than players' abilities IMO
Lee and JJ may be as good as they can get with the current staff, unless BG is some kind of miracle worker.
I think we have two QB's with game trauma. Both physically gifted to play but shell shocked because of coaching ineptness.
Posted on 3/26/10 at 9:20 pm to TheDoc
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Why is that?
Our Jr QB is working on his SIXTEENTH start, and the coaches are saying he's still not getting it, still simplifying the game for him, and that its a problem when he throws the ball too much. But hey, thats exactly what they were saying about Tebow, Bradford, McCoy, McElroy, Flynn, et al going into their Jr yrs.
Posted on 3/27/10 at 5:02 am to TigerBandAlumnus82
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Well here we go again, having to further "Water Down" the offense for the JUNIOR starting QB. How can you have any kind of decent passing game based on just one read? Gonzales making things simpler tells us all that EITHER Crowton's offense was way too complicated for Jefferson (And JL as well) to understand or that they just don't have what it takes to grasp it.
AGHHHHH THE IRONY. Haha, you are a fricking idiot. Only having one read can be extremely beneficial to an offense by making it much more efficient and decisive.
If JJ were to walk up to the line of scrimmage, before, and he was responsible to point out the MLB, then adjust his receivers' routes based on the distance from the cornerbacks, and then maybe he was supposed to read the direction of the first step of the Free Safety once the ball is snapped, ALL before he can ever decide who to throw it to, then that may have been way too much to process for a kid that isn't the greatest pocket passer.
Maybe, Jefferson's mixture of size, strength, mobility, and calmness is just now starting to mesh well with Crowton's system, which had focused more on pocket presence and reacting to what a defense is giving you, than actually attacking a defense and stretching it out either wide or deep with rollouts, bombs, or quick outs. Crowton may be closer to understanding how to better use a young QB that may not have the knowledge of a Matt Flynn or Andrew Hatch but has a stronger arm, a bigger frame, and less physical limitations.
There are so many variables that go into an Offensive strategy that for you to claim that only having to make one read, before or during a play, means that Crowton has to "dumb down" his style for JJ.... well, it just goes to show you how most people that think they know so much about football, really have no concept of what actually goes into football strategy.
Jefferson, Crowton, and Gonzalez have all proved that they have talent, and they all obviously feel like they are improving eachother.
Posted on 3/27/10 at 7:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
Jefferson is the first to admit that he has to do a better
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the problem with the team is the coaching clusterfrick/incompetence rather than players' abilities IMO
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Lee and JJ may be as good as they can get with the current staff, unless BG is some kind of miracle worker.
I think we have two QB's with game trauma. Both physically gifted to play but shell shocked because of coaching ineptness.
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if JJ can't produce this year, crowtons arse is gone, and very possibly miles as well. it's a miracle it didn't happen after last year. see buyouts. how the hell can we expect BG to be the miracle worker unless he is the one making the play calls ? maybe BG will fine tune the options to the short side so there will be only a few reads for our qbs to make for downfield throws. even with a better Oline, there will have to be a vast improvement from our qb. i think our lack of ability to check out of calls will limit the playbook. ford and ridley will certainly get a chance to become overnight sensations with the carries they will get.crowtons job is on the line, and miles wll certainly be available to michigan if lsu doesn't vastly improve on the offensive side. probably the defense will have to be completely overbearing for lsu to be highly successfully. maybe the spring game today will show improvement. we are loaded with tremendous talent at the skilled positions . this will be make it or break it season for more than one person
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the problem with the team is the coaching clusterfrick/incompetence rather than players' abilities IMO
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Lee and JJ may be as good as they can get with the current staff, unless BG is some kind of miracle worker.
I think we have two QB's with game trauma. Both physically gifted to play but shell shocked because of coaching ineptness.
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if JJ can't produce this year, crowtons arse is gone, and very possibly miles as well. it's a miracle it didn't happen after last year. see buyouts. how the hell can we expect BG to be the miracle worker unless he is the one making the play calls ? maybe BG will fine tune the options to the short side so there will be only a few reads for our qbs to make for downfield throws. even with a better Oline, there will have to be a vast improvement from our qb. i think our lack of ability to check out of calls will limit the playbook. ford and ridley will certainly get a chance to become overnight sensations with the carries they will get.crowtons job is on the line, and miles wll certainly be available to michigan if lsu doesn't vastly improve on the offensive side. probably the defense will have to be completely overbearing for lsu to be highly successfully. maybe the spring game today will show improvement. we are loaded with tremendous talent at the skilled positions . this will be make it or break it season for more than one person
Posted on 3/27/10 at 8:09 am to TigerBandAlumnus82
quote:I'm as big a Tommy Hodson fan as anyone... but the offenses in 80s are comparable to today's junior high offenses. There really was not much to grasp.
Hey, here's a novel idea, why don't we recruit a QB (Like a Tommy Hodson) that can come in and grasp things quickly and run what the coaches want to run so we don't have to "Simplify and water down" everything in order to have success on the field.
Offenses today, specifically Crowton's spread/spread-option offense, is very complex. A lot of the complexities can be blamed for JL's poor decision-making and throwing off his back foot and JJ's hesitation in the pocket - which are the biggest flaws of each player, in my opinion. Both of those guys have great talent, and the offensive play calling should complement that talent. Cutting back on some reads is a way to do that. BG is 'dumbing it down' because it was too complex. The UF offense has one basic read at the line of scrimmage and one in the d-backfield.
This shouldn't worry you. You should be excited that coaches are making the offense more efficient.
Posted on 3/27/10 at 8:21 am to RobbBobb
It's amazing how so much insight can be derived (on all different sides of the issue) from a bunch of fricking articles and quotes.
Posted on 3/27/10 at 8:23 am to Methuselah
quote:back off old man they've almost got this figured out
It's amazing how so much insight can be derived (on all different sides of the issue) from a bunch of fricking articles and quotes.
Posted on 3/27/10 at 8:43 am to drexyl
If we have another season like last 2 yrs,Bye Bye Les & his merry men. Especially CG. 
Posted on 3/27/10 at 11:23 am to Methuselah
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It's amazing how so much insight can be derived (on all different sides of the issue) from watching an entire season of the 112th ranked offense.
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