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Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
13168 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:49 pm to
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Daniels can make all the throws,


Agree. He just does not make "all the throws" like multiple ones that Nuss did.

Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
39125 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:50 pm to
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He was sharp early

16 of 24 for 208 yards ain't shabby
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:51 pm to
Yes it he will get it just let him get to 50+ starts. Come on guys have some patience.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:09 pm to
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16 of 24 for 208 yards ain't shabby
53 of the yards was on the pass to Boutte which like most his passes traveled less than 15 yards in the air. That was all Boutte.

Posted by financetiger38
Member since Nov 2022
3182 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:21 pm to
It means you can’t say we wouldn’t have won without him when other QBs wouldn’t have even needed to use their legs to get the job done
Posted by JohnDeer
Phoenix
Member since Oct 2022
325 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:26 pm to
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Yes it he will get it just let him get to 50+ starts. Come on guys have some patience.


The people on here who think that Daniels is going improve and be a better qb next year are insane
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46102 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:31 pm to
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These are the things that absolutely have to be fixed, or we need to look to someone else.

Not sure that can be 'fixed' - there is no time to 'remember strategies' especially when the mechanics are not there.

I admire what JD has done, but I still think we'd be in a better position for next year had we allowed Nuss to gain 10 games of experience this year.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46102 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:35 pm to
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its not about ability

I dunno - I have seen very few 'beautiful' throws that hit the receiver in stride or into a very tight window.

Many of his completions this year the receiver had to break the route to get to the ball.

I'm no expert, but it just doesn't 'look' like a great qb pass.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46102 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:36 pm to
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Throwing with accuracy/timing

well yeah - there's that.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46102 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:39 pm to
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LSU has to stop treading water at QB and move on to better talent, even if there are learning curves to accept.

And this would have been the perfect season for those learning curves to be attacked.
Posted by Addison Tiger
Antwerp, Belgium
Member since Jul 2005
694 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:40 pm to
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The people on here who think that Daniels is going improve and be a better qb next year are insane


This is actually the question I was trying to get to. Not sure why you think a college football player can't get better. If he does not improve, coaches should be able to see that and Nuss is the starter. If not, JD is the starter.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 7:42 pm
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20978 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:52 pm to
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Everyone is talking about Nuss, but JD threw some pretty nice passes before he came out.


Daniels has a serious issue throwing the ball downfield. It seems to be mental in nature. Kelly has been pushing him to let it fly but he does not do it. Most of the passes you were referencing were short timing routes that any QB should be able to throw.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
19327 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 4:35 am to
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JD won us some games we should not have won with his legs this year, but by golly seeing Nuss air it out like that yesterday was like an acid flashback to Joey B. 2019



Overreact much? Did JB ever turn the ball over 2 times in a half?
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7344 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:13 am to
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He wasn't terrible but his refusal to throw deep is an issue.

He also takes***** too long to commit ********making a lot of the deep throws he makes late




Then people bitch about a very talented young OL not giving him time to pass. But JD is better than I gave him credit for, he should be very motivated to improve. There is a lot of money on the line for him in the draft.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4328 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:31 am to
Almost all his throws aren’t on time because he waits to see if they’re wiiiddddee open and by then the window of opportunity has totally closed or the defender has made up ground and is in position to defend the catch, which will lead to an incomplete. The JD supporters will tell you that was a dropped ball. Well, if he knew what the hell he was doing in pre and post snap reads a lot of those could have been easy catches had he thrown “ on time “.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7880 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:10 am to
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he JD supporters will tell you


Well I'm a JD supporter, I just see that he has to improve on things.

Are you suggesting there were no dropped balls by recievers? If so your just as bad as those JD supporters you speak of because there were definite dropped balls on many occasions this season. Lacy had 2 obvious drops killing 2 drives against A&M. Boutte had quite a few this year.

That's the issue with many, it has to be either or, both things are true. JD needs improvement and the recievers dropped alot of passes.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25104 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:27 am to
Too little too late.
Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
2802 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:32 am to
I think people were just more impressed with how he was able to come in after JD5’s energy and light it up.

No one is taking anything away from Daniels. I thought he made some good decisions and good throws.

His deep ball is horrible though.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4328 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:55 am to
No insinuation that there were no dropped balls but when there are highly contested balls without being caught, sometimes that's not just on the receiver, that's my point. A few on here try to make it seem it's all the receiver's fault and it's not. Many things factor in to it. There were easy, catchable balls that were dropped, at the same time there were highly contested balls that weren't caught that people called drops and that's just not true and if JD would have made better reads and quicker decisions in some instances, those highly contested balls become easy completions. That's the point of my post.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 9:48 am
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8503 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:56 am to
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JD won us some games we should not have won with his legs this year
This is the whole reason that he started. CBK knew the offensive line would get a drop-back guy like Nuss killed until they developed, which they did over the course of the season. So he started JD in order to mask that issue (although he still got sacked 40+ times). It worked perfectly until the last couple of games in the season, when JD just looked terrified to throw the ball & could no longer beat teams with his legs.
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