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Jayden's Heisman odds remain +350 area, why?

Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:11 am
Posted by secfballfan
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:11 am
So checked 3 books- basically Nix is -110 to +100, Jayden and Penix +350 to +380. Nix gets ASU this weekend then Oregon State. What does Jayden have to do to win? Does Nix have to lose a game?
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:14 am to
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Jayden have to do to win?

I hope Jayden hangs 8 TDs on Georgia St this weekend
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:14 am to
Nix was average in his one game vs a T50 defense and they lost to UW.

He’s a product of his schedule, nothing more.

Daniel’s gets to face his 6th T50 defense next weekend vs A&M.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 10:15 am
Posted by epicopt116
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:14 am to
hate to say it, but he will probably have to have incredible number for the last 2 games... makes no sense



but they want a player thats undefeated or only 1 loss to win it.
Posted by bloupe2
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:17 am to
angel is suspended indefinitely
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Jayden have to do to win? Does Nix have to lose a game?


Well, Heisman odds are based on betting.

The Heisman Trophy is awarded through a voting process.

I guess I would ask - how strongly have Heisman betting odds as of mid-November correlated with the final winner?
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:19 am to
Oregon St will beat Oregon and hold Nix relatively in check like they did last year. Oregon will then turn around and keep Penix in check and give Washington their first L. Jayden keeps putting up video game numbers his last 2 games and takes it home.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:21 am to
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hate to say it, but he will probably have to have incredible number for the last 2 games... makes no sense



but they want a player thats undefeated or only 1 loss to win it.


That’s what the books are saying but honestly what I’m seeing on vote leaks is people leaning on JD. He has to finish strong and we can’t lose to A&M but I still see value in betting JD. One book had him at +2000 after the Bama game. That was great value
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42392 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:24 am to
the fanbase needs to stop worrying about it
nothing the fans or Jayden can really do about it
it will be awesome he gets to go to New York but I'm not getting my hopes up either way
if it happens, great!
all it's gonna take is Nix or Penix or someone going off these last couple weeks that can overtake him
than you have some idiot sportswriters that vote before the championship weekend
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:24 am to
Why? Because it has morphed moreso than ever into a "best player on best team" award.

That's why you see Marvin Harrison, Jr. with the 4th best odds and Nabers nowhere to be found despite the fact Nabers has significantly better numbers than Harrison.

It's also why you see guys like JJ McCarthy and Jalen Milroe given odds despite the fact neither are having anything close to Heisman-worthy seasons.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:29 am to

quote:

Jayden's Heisman odds remain +350 area, why?



Posted by MrWalkingMan
31st Parallel North
Member since Aug 2010
6313 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:33 am to
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than you have some idiot sportswriters that vote before the championship weekend

It’s in JD’s best interest that as many voters as possible DO vote before championship weekend. Imagine the swing in public sentiment if Penix or Nix leads a 4th quarter game winning drive to cap off a barn burner in the PAC12 championship (which is exactly what happened the first time they played)
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:35 am to
It is clear to anyone with eyes that Daniels is the best in CFB this year.

Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21688 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:35 am to
Because his defense especially Matt House sucks cock
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:37 am to
You say “remain” but on Saturday night it was at about +700. His odds were cut in half.

So, it is more correct to say “JD odds are down to +350”

I’m not even a ‘betting’ or ‘odds’ dude. But, I was listening to radio / YouTube hosts raving about how fast his odds have improved in a short time.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 10:38 am
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
6571 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:43 am to
Because tree fiddy is the best odds, regardless of what numbers say.
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
3255 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:45 am to
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Heisman odds are based on betting.


This.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40435 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:48 am to
SEC fatigue from non-Southern voters
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 10:49 am
Posted by LuzianaFootball
Bay Area
Member since Dec 2008
7845 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:50 am to
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I hope Jayden hangs 8 TDs on Georgia St this weekend


I know one of the Associate AD's at Georgia State and he doesn't deserve what may happen this weekend lol. Great dude, but sorry buddy, we've got business to handle and program promotion.

JD5 go off sir
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64604 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:50 am to
That's odd
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