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re: Jay Johnson - 2 things can be true
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:49 pm to LSUJML
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:49 pm to LSUJML
quote:quote:He openly admitted to this last night
#2 - he has entirely shite the bed on player evaluation
Did he address the amount of players who weren’t transfers and have not improved from last year? Bc the returning pitching staff is worse than they were a year ago. Are we blaming the portal guys for that?
This is more than a talent issue.
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:18 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I started by saying he was very good and tried to show how the narrative can change based on 1-2 games. Obviously I think he’s good just saying someone like Vitello was better in my opinion. Also, 125-85 is a good bit better than 66-56. And again you have to compare the programs they did this at. Most ppl on here love Will Wade (as do I) and his biggest accomplishment was getting to the sweet 16 with lsu basketball. That was considered great because it’s LSU basketball. His resume would be a shitty one at Kentucky or Duke. You have to take programs into consideration. Same thing applies to LSU and Tenn baseball. Some of you can’t comprehend this simple truth.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 12:14 am to Tiger4travel
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Same thing applies to LSU and Tenn baseball. Some of you can’t comprehend this simple truth.
The simple truth is no one would take a better conference record over more national titles. Also,there is a reason JJ has only been here 4 years. It's because lsu wasn't a good program 5 years ago.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 1:55 am to Tiger4travel
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Obviously I think he’s good just saying someone like Vitello was better in my opinion. Also, 125-85 is a good bit better than 66-56.
welp 2>1
sorry, not sorry
Posted on 4/19/26 at 6:04 am to Relham10
Jay is a great coach but the fact still remains that this lineup of guys just don't have the horsepower needed! Tigers have let too many guys die on base with no clutch hitting! And every walk that's rendered....is a run! Errors have been a killer also! 
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:30 am to Geauxldilocks
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There are 4-5 coaches in the SEC better than JJ
I can’t wait to hear who you think they are.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:42 am to Tiger4travel
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Obviously I think he’s good just saying someone like Vitello was better in my opinion
Jay has hardware and plenty of respectable post season performances. Some of that post season record at a much lower tier program. Vitello is a good coach, I won’t argue that.
Jay has hardware that proves he is better.
That’s cut and dry.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:28 am to Breauxfessor
Going back to Arizona it seems Jay has a track record of having either really good to great teams or mediocre teams with no in between. His next step in developing as a coach is to find a way to have those bridge years elevate their floor.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 11:16 am to Breauxfessor
Trust in CJJ.....he will have LSU back soon!
Posted on 4/19/26 at 12:03 pm to Breauxfessor
He definitely missed on player evaluation and potential development
Posted on 4/19/26 at 12:21 pm to Tiger4travel
Vitello was there for a long time before he won a national championship it’s why he has a .590 career record you idiot !
Posted on 4/19/26 at 12:21 pm to TigerMac81
The SEC wasn’t this good in smokes era.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 12:32 pm to Jim Hopper
He’s having a hard time seeing past things and has a hard on for Vitello it’s pretty clear!
Posted on 4/19/26 at 12:40 pm to Maverick14
What does him being there for a while have to do with his .595 record? You make zero sense. The two facts are independent. Also if you go with that argument Johnson didn’t win his first nc until his 8th season as head coach ,which is two years later than Vitello. Keep the logic up!
This post was edited on 4/19/26 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 4/19/26 at 12:42 pm to Breauxfessor
This season will go down as the worst season since before Skip got here if they dont turn it around and get some wins.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 1:48 pm to JoeyP239
quote:Whenever you say this shite, and people ask you to list just one, you never actually do it.
More than that.
quote:So a true measure of a coach is not that he is able to get really good non P5 players and turn them into big leaguers, it's their ability to win with shitty players? Are you retarded.
A true measure of a coach is how they do without MLB picks on the team.
Name me a single coach who has won a college world series in the last decade without major league players. All ears. Name me a single coach that wins a title against what was the 2023 college baseball tournament field without multiple major leaguers. Can't wait.
quote:Then why haven't Texas, Arkansas, Texas A&M, and Mississippi State in the NIL era? They all have as much if not more resource allocation to baseball as LSU.
Anyone can win with LSU resources.
quote:So winning a title means nothing, but having a bad team means everything. Got it.
To actually have a bad team with LSU resources is a colossal failure
Posted on 4/19/26 at 1:54 pm to Breauxfessor
quote:Return some of that $$$$ salary back to the LSUAD. He didn't earn it!
#2 - he has entirely shite the bed on player evaluation and coaching this year. This is painful. Feels like a Smoke year.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 2:01 pm to LSUminati
quote:The problem with modern college baseball (and modern college sports in general) is it's incredibly difficult to pull that off.
Going back to Arizona it seems Jay has a track record of having either really good to great teams or mediocre teams with no in between. His next step in developing as a coach is to find a way to have those bridge years elevate their floor.
If you have a title team, you are going to HAVE to be extremely top heavy. You're going to have to turn around and hit on pretty much every single transfer portal addition, because you're going to lose major pieces the next year. Then, the freshman you'd love to develop in the program, don't allow themselves to develop in the program.
It's kind of a chicken/egg situation. You have to go get top end talent to play right away if you want to compete. You also don't want to run young guys out of the program. So you are therefore required to hit on pretty much every addition. If you're in Omaha and lose 10+ days of recruiting, that's going to be extremely challenging.
It's a very tough balancing act. If we are truly in a position where it becomes a legit contender/travel for a regional rotation every year, I don't necessarily have a problem with that. Since 2022 (Jay's start here), here are pertinent CWS facts:
1. LSU leads with 2 titles
2. Only 3 teams have gone in consecutive years (Stanford in 2022/2023, Tenn in 2023/2024, and UF in 2023/2024 - and they really just caught fire late).
3. No one has been more than twice.
You have to get extremely lucky in the draft and have one class carry you if you are going to go in consecutive years (UCLA 25/26, Tenn 23/24).
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